NSW/SYD: banning colours

JL wrote:
> Damien wrote:
>> Iain Chalmers wrote:
>>> In article
>>> <2e5d21f6-6662-447e-9417-6ae638edcab4.TakeThisOut@s27g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
>>> JL <jlittler.TakeThisOut@my-deja.com> wrote:
>>>> Oh puhleese - you're getting stupider by the post.
>>>
>>> Heh, and you know what they say about arguing with idiots on the
>>> internet? They'll drag you down the their level of stupidity, then
>>> beat you with their superior experience...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> big
>>>
>>
>> And that would probably explain why I shouldn't have ever talked to JL
>> et al in the first place, and why they continue to insistently claim
>> to have beaten me - it's all that experience they must have!
>
> Point to where I've claimed to have beaten you dickhead. I just stopped
> responding to you.
>
> JL
> (yeah yeah I know but sometimes enough incitement and etc)

So you're admitting that I am right then?
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JL wrote:
> Iain Chalmers wrote:
>> In article
>> <2e5d21f6-6662-447e-9417-6ae638edcab4 RemoveThis @s27g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
>> JL <jlittler RemoveThis @my-deja.com> wrote:
>>> Oh puhleese - you're getting stupider by the post.
>>
>> Heh, and you know what they say about arguing with idiots on the
>> internet? They'll drag you down the their level of stupidity, then
>> beat you with their superior experience...
>>
>>
>
> <sigh> I know, I bwelatedly realised and stopped bothering 2 days ago
>
> JL

ROFL
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JL wrote:
> Nev.. wrote:
>
>> See, and it's stuff like that which just highlights how poor your
>> judgement really is. Probably worse than what you give bouncers the
>> credit for. And to think they let people like you educate children.
>
>
> Damn ! So there's not only consistency about the way coppers on ausmoto
> spell, there's consistency about the way teachers on ausmoto (fail) to
> argue.

No there isn't!

Moike
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Damien wrote:
> Theo Bekkers wrote:
>
>> We're in gambit mode now, are we? If an Australian journalist was
>> writing an article for Le Monde, I would expect said journalist to
>> write in French. Does that answer your question.
>
> No, we're not. But it was said that pretty much the sole grounds for
> demanding that "Australian" spellings be used was that we are in
> Australia. I was simply pointing out that even on that rather poor
> basis, there are any number of very valid grounds for NOT using
> "Australian" spellings even so. My example was simply one such
> example.

I believe your example was for language to be used outside Australia. So not
a valid example. Sorry

>> I don't believe I said at any time that Aus spelling was superior in
>> any way. I said we should continue to spell the way we spell in Aus,
>> and leave the yanks to their version. And resist any attempts to
>> adopt their version. And I'm even happy for the French to continue
>> to parlez Francais. How is that bigoted?
>
> Maybe not directly, but surely you're smart enough to realise the
> actual intent of your words? When you say "you MUST use OUR spelling,
> because its OURS", what is that if not a statement of implied
> superiority? As for the bigotry, look no further than your supporting
> criticisms that it is preferable because it is NOT the spelling used
> by a certain other culture.

You know the intent of my words? Maybe you infer the intent of my words.

> If you wish to avoid claims of superiority and bigotry, then your
> support for "Australian" spellings needs to be given without
> derogatory references to other cultures, and in a way that
> demonstrates some degree of objective understanding of
> evidence/argument that does not rely on denigrating other forms, but
> rather demonstrates advantages not otherwise possible.
>
> But if you wish to continue to base your opposition to other forms on
> the sole basis of their association with another culture (as you have
> been doing), irrespective of the fact that they were actually
> originated within your own culture anyway, then you must accept that
> you will expose yourself to accusations of cultural bigotry. Because
> that's exactly what it is, whether you like it or not.

You may not be aware that English was not my first language as I was not
born in Oz, so am slightly confused as to what you think my 'culture' might
be. I do sometimes have difficulty with English, as she is writ,
particularly when the rules conflict with the rules of my first language. I
suspect you don't have that problem.

Theo
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G-S wrote:

> You forget... I live in a country town... Harley's aren't bought here as
> a fashion statement they are bought because the nearest bike shop is
> 50kms away and Harleys are easy to work on at home.
>
> Most of the Harleys are older and with signifcant kms on them too.
>
> Think Pisshead Pete

Ahh, so that's it. Harleys are easy to work on at home. That'd explain
why Pisshead is always working on his!

Nev..
'07 XB12X
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Nev.. wrote:
> G-S wrote:
>
>> You forget... I live in a country town... Harley's aren't bought here
>> as a fashion statement they are bought because the nearest bike shop
>> is 50kms away and Harleys are easy to work on at home.
>>
>> Most of the Harleys are older and with signifcant kms on them too.
>>
>> Think Pisshead Pete
>
> Ahh, so that's it. Harleys are easy to work on at home. That'd explain
> why Pisshead is always working on his!

Well, in Pete's defense, it does appear like those "they" bastards put a
Harley drive belt on the floor and built a whole trike around it.

regards,
CrazyCam
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Nev.. wrote:
> G-S wrote:
>
>> You forget... I live in a country town... Harley's aren't bought here
>> as a fashion statement they are bought because the nearest bike shop
>> is 50kms away and Harleys are easy to work on at home.
>>
>> Most of the Harleys are older and with signifcant kms on them too.
>>
>> Think Pisshead Pete
>
> Ahh, so that's it. Harleys are easy to work on at home. That'd explain
> why Pisshead is always working on his!
>
> Nev..
> '07 XB12X

Harleys solos actually are fairly easy to work on... they are pretty
simple motorbikes.

The problem with petes trike isn't that it isn't easy to work on the
bike, it's just that the trike is in the way of the bike


G-S
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JL wrote:
> On Jan 18, 4:58 pm, G-S <ge....DeleteThis@castbus.com.au> wrote:
>> JL wrote:
>>> On Jan 18, 1:23 pm, G-S <ge....DeleteThis@castbus.com.au> wrote:
>>>>> It must be almost time for an Ausmoto dinner, and Parramatta is the
>>>>> geographic centre of Sydney, how about dinner at the Royal Oak guys ?
>>>> If I was in Sydney I'd pike now... given I'm not I'll just think
>>>> insulting comments about the choice of venue.
>>> I'd have thought you and Damien would be aching to test your thesis
>>> about how non OMCG'ers are going to get banned.
>>> JL
>>> (it's why I suggested it)
>
>> [2] The only 2 HD's I have ready access to these days are a sportster
>> and an electro-glide ultra classic; neither of which are likely to be
>> usable to test the hypothesis.
>
> Errm if bouncers are too stupid to tell the difference between
> Bandidos colours and a Ulysses logo why do you think they can tell the
> difference between an electra-glide and any other HD ? Logical
> inconsistency there mate.

The difference between an electra-glide ultra classic and a typical ape
hanger custom harley is much greater than the difference between the
look of your average 1%er and your average HOG member.

That doesn't seem inconsistent to me *shrug*.

> JL
> (besides I know at least one 1%er who has a full dress hogly (dunno
> the exact model) in his stable )

Really? Older guy perhaps? Multiple Harleys?

OK... but that probably only means he's less likely to be refused when
he's supposed to be refused (which is problem no 2 with this proposed
regulation)

G-S
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"Moike" <bmwmoike DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> JL wrote:
>> Nev.. wrote:
>>
>>> See, and it's stuff like that which just highlights how poor your
>>> judgement really is. Probably worse than what you give bouncers the
>>> credit for. And to think they let people like you educate children.
>>
>>
>> Damn ! So there's not only consistency about the way coppers on ausmoto
>> spell, there's consistency about the way teachers on ausmoto (fail) to
>> argue.
>
> No there isn't!
>
> Moike

Agreed! I consistently fail to argue because I generally don't like
arguing...

betty
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"SteveB" <boyds.DeleteThis@ains.net.au> wrote in message
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> On Jan 21, 9:29 am, Damien <al.qa....DeleteThis@asio.gov.au> wrote:
>> Theo Bekkers wrote:
>
>><snip>
>>
>> > I don't believe I said at any time that Aus spelling was superior in
>> > any
>> > way. I said we should continue to spell the way we spell in Aus, and
>> > leave
>> > the yanks to their version. And resist any attempts to adopt their
>> > version.
>> > And I'm even happy for the French to continue to parlez Francais. How
>> > is
>> > that bigoted?
>>
>> Maybe not directly, but surely you're smart enough to realise the actual
>> intent of your words? When you say "you MUST use OUR spelling, because
>> its OURS", what is that if not a statement of implied superiority?
>
> You confuse superiority with difference.
>
>>As
>> for the bigotry, look no further than your supporting criticisms that it
>> is preferable because it is NOT the spelling used by a certain other
>> culture.
>
> I am all for keeping Aus spelling so that we can remain different to
> the other culture(s). There is no superiority involved, just a desire
> to not end up in a planet wide beige culture, possibly dictated by
> others.
>
> SteveB

'specially the Yanks <running away>

betty
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On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 18:58:18 +1100, "bikerbetty"
<bikerbetty.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>"Moike" <bmwmoike.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:4793da27$0$22049$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>> JL wrote:
>>> Nev.. wrote:
>>>
>>>> See, and it's stuff like that which just highlights how poor your
>>>> judgement really is. Probably worse than what you give bouncers the
>>>> credit for. And to think they let people like you educate children.
>>>
>>>
>>> Damn ! So there's not only consistency about the way coppers on ausmoto
>>> spell, there's consistency about the way teachers on ausmoto (fail) to
>>> argue.
>>
>> No there isn't!
>>
>> Moike
>
>Agreed! I consistently fail to argue because I generally don't like
>arguing...
>
>betty
>
GOOD! - now fetch the bloody beers woman!

Sheese!

Johno < did I tell you that I am going to PI?>
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On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 19:59:08 -0800 (PST), SteveB <boyds DeleteThis @ains.net.au>
wrote:

>On Jan 21, 9:29 am, Damien <al.qa... DeleteThis @asio.gov.au> wrote:
>> Theo Bekkers wrote:
>
>><snip>
>>
>> > I don't believe I said at any time that Aus spelling was superior in any
>> > way. I said we should continue to spell the way we spell in Aus, and leave
>> > the yanks to their version. And resist any attempts to adopt their version.
>> > And I'm even happy for the French to continue to parlez Francais. How is
>> > that bigoted?
>>
>> Maybe not directly, but surely you're smart enough to realise the actual
>> intent of your words? When you say "you MUST use OUR spelling, because
>> its OURS", what is that if not a statement of implied superiority?
>
>You confuse superiority with difference.
>
>>As
>> for the bigotry, look no further than your supporting criticisms that it
>> is preferable because it is NOT the spelling used by a certain other
>> culture.
>
> I am all for keeping Aus spelling so that we can remain different to
>the other culture(s). There is no superiority involved, just a desire
>to not end up in a planet wide beige culture, possibly dictated by
>others.

And what's wrong with beige? I happen to like beige. All you Billy
Connolly clones can get rooted....

Onya bike !!!

Gerry
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SteveB wrote:
> I am all for keeping Aus spelling so that we can remain different to
> the other culture(s). There is no superiority involved, just a desire
> to not end up in a planet wide beige culture, possibly dictated by
> others.

We're all quite lucky, that English has become the world language, and
we're native speakers of English when most of the rest of the world have
to learn it in addition to their own language, and in most cases English
is more difficult to learn that their own language. Why go and make it
more difficult for non-native English speakers by maintaining so many
different versions of English?

Nev..
'07 XB12X
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