NSW/SYD: banning colours summary so far

External Since: Dec 20, 2007 Posts: 33

"Nev.." <idiot.RemoveThis@mindless.com> wrote in message
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> Zebee Johnstone wrote:
>> For those who don't want to wade through the lot:
>>
>> From what I can see, this is what is happening:
>>
>> Licence conditions on some pubs in Parammatta are being changed to ban
>> OMC colours and regalia and various people want it to be extended too
>> all pubs. This is so the publicans can call the police to remove people
>> who are wearing these even if the wearers are otherwise inoffensive.
>> Previously they could only enforce a dresscode using their own security
>> staff and that could lead to difficulty and other patrons being scared
>> off.
>>
>> This is giving publicans bigger teeth that they can bite harder and
>> faster with, but the idea of a dress code is not new. The ability to
>> enforce it with bigger firepower is.
>>
>> These are the concerns:
>>
>> - It is possible for this to give publicans more reason (and possibly
>> a requirement, it isn't clear if this will be in all licence renewals
>> or only if the pub asks for it) to have a dress code they might not have
>> had before.
>>
>> - If more pubs have this dress code, they might enforce it in a way
>> that stops non-1%ers from getting in the pub. We have no way to know
>> if this will happen. Some think it likely, some think it unlikely
>>
>> - It isn't known if this will stop at pubs. If it is being used as a
>> way to deal with organised crime it might be extended to other premises.
>> There's no mention of this anywhere official or semi-official, except
>> that police are "watching with interest".
>>
>>
>> Then there are the moral/ethical/princple arguments:
>>
>> - No matter which group is targetted, refusing someone
>> entry because they are wearing clothing to indicate affiliation with
>> a certain social or political group is wrong, and should be opposed on
>> those grounds, not because there might be fallout on other riders.
>>
>> - the 1%ers get upset when people wear colours and are
>> now whinging when they get a taste of their own medicine - whinging
>> that a bigger nastier gang (the Blue Gang) will whack them for it. And
>> that if they want support they will have to deserve same which they are
>> showing no signs of trying to do.
>>
>> - 1%ers have brought it on themselves and so can't complain. They
>> revel in their reputation and now when it bites they get upset.
>>
>> - There are bad bastards in every group, count the criminal
>> convictions held by members of the RSL, so targetting one group that
>> has wrong'uns and not another is bad.
>>
>> Have I missed any?
>
> Yes, you missed the bit that it's people wearing club colours, not people
> who are riding motorcycles who will be refused entry. In fact the
> opening paragraph of your original post highlights the point..
>

Well I dont know any pub that lets you enter whilst riding motorcycles

External Since: Mar 21, 2007 Posts: 570

Nev.. wrote:

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> A few years ago the australian soccer federation completely reinvented
> the game. They banned any clubs from wearing national colours of
> particular ethnic groups or using names which associated them with
> particular ethnic groups in order to reduce the intimidation,
> confrontation and violence of fans at the soccer matches.

It's still wogball to me.

regards,
CrazyCam