Lighting

Dan, danl wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:21:57 -0600, Roger Elmore
> <whatzit.DeleteThis@STOPmambm.com> wrote:
>
>> "Dan, danl" wrote:
>>> I have some ideas about lighting on my scoot so grab a drink and tell
>>> me what you think of them.
>> IMHO, add lights to help *you* see better.
>
> I had come to that conclusion a very long time ago. I did want to see
> what other people had to say on the subject.
>
> I am going to change the rear turn signals to work as brake lights and
> put bright led units in the turn and brake system.
>
>
>> Don't expect more lights on your bike to make some brain dead cager
>> with a stereo booming more dBs than your horn and texting on their
>> cell phone to see you coming.
>>
>> If you want to survive, develop ESP and don't ride like you have the
>> right of way.
>>
>> Even if you have some bullshit idea you do.
>
> Grew out of ideas like that long ago.
>
>
> I'm looking for small bullet lights. Maybe 3-3 1/2" to mount below
> the headlight. Like to find some that are reasonably priced and that
> can handle a 65 to90 watt bulb. That should work OK off the stock
> high beam switch if I use a relay. Have to keep em small so they
> don't look too out of place on my girly bike. <g>
>
> Would even consider changing out the stock headlight housing if I
> could find something I like.
>
>
>
> danl

I've been hanging onto this link since I saw something just like these on StephG's bike. I
have a SuperGlide, which shared the same front end as sporties way back in '00.

http://www.weekendconcepts.com/bullet.html

His writeup:

http://www.bamph.com/rmh/KurSpots.htm

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On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:43:15 -0500, Rand McNally
<lostandfound.TakeThisOut@munged.org> wrote:

>Dan, danl wrote:
>> On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:21:57 -0600, Roger Elmore
>> <whatzit.TakeThisOut@STOPmambm.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "Dan, danl" wrote:
>>>> I have some ideas about lighting on my scoot so grab a drink and tell
>>>> me what you think of them.
>>> IMHO, add lights to help *you* see better.
>>
>> I had come to that conclusion a very long time ago. I did want to see
>> what other people had to say on the subject.
>>
>> I am going to change the rear turn signals to work as brake lights and
>> put bright led units in the turn and brake system.
>>
>>
>>> Don't expect more lights on your bike to make some brain dead cager
>>> with a stereo booming more dBs than your horn and texting on their
>>> cell phone to see you coming.
>>>
>>> If you want to survive, develop ESP and don't ride like you have the
>>> right of way.
>>>
>>> Even if you have some bullshit idea you do.
>>
>> Grew out of ideas like that long ago.
>>
>>
>> I'm looking for small bullet lights. Maybe 3-3 1/2" to mount below
>> the headlight. Like to find some that are reasonably priced and that
>> can handle a 65 to90 watt bulb. That should work OK off the stock
>> high beam switch if I use a relay. Have to keep em small so they
>> don't look too out of place on my girly bike. <g>
>>
>> Would even consider changing out the stock headlight housing if I
>> could find something I like.
>>
>>
>>
>> danl
>
>I've been hanging onto this link since I saw something just like these on StephG's bike. I
>have a SuperGlide, which shared the same front end as sporties way back in '00.
>
>http://www.weekendconcepts.com/bullet.html

I like those. Especially in the 75 w spot. A pair of those on the
country roads would be nice. I think I'll stick with the 50 w tho.
The 50 w are 4.5 amp each for 9 amps. The 75w are 7 amps each for 14
amp. I need to check my manual for alternator output.

Damn, the manual is out in the below zero truck. I'll check it
tomorrow!

Course if I put led's in all 4 turn signals that would drop usage
slightly.

>
>His writeup:
>
>http://www.bamph.com/rmh/KurSpots.htm

I had read that article a long time ago. That's what started me
thinking about putting more light in front this winter.

Now I have lots to think about. Thanks

Let me buy you a drink.

danl
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DM wrote:
> Terry Coombs wrote:
>> Terry Coombs wrote:
>>
>>> Well , hell , YOU know how ugly I am cuz you've met me . He hasn't ,
>>> am I THAT ugly that the fame has spread worldwide ?
>>> --
>>> Snag , here's a good shot of me ... damn , I AM that ugly !
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>> Double Damn , my apologies to all . I was just next door and thought
>> I still was .
>> --
>> Snag
>
> My server (Giganews) didn't even post the message. Nice cherry wood next
> door btw.
>
> Fins BS#221

Thanks , I've had a great time making this one . The boss is almost
as anal as I am ... almost .
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Terry Coombs wrote:

>DM wrote:
>> Terry Coombs wrote:
>>> Dean wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I dated a girl like you in high school. She told me she had nice tits,
>>>> but would never expose them.
>>>> Pull up your ratty tee shirt & I'll buy you a drink.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Uh dude , I don't swing that way , I'm as hetero a male as you'll ever
>>> meet . I'll leave my shirt down and you can keep that drink .
>>
>> He knows that, he's just saying he dated a girl like you. She was one
>> ugly bitch.
>>
>> Fins BS#221
>
>Well , hell , YOU know how ugly I am cuz you've met me . He hasn't , am
>I THAT ugly that the fame has spread worldwide ?
> --
> Snag , here's a good shot of me ... damn , I AM that ugly !


I learned a valuable lesson here. Never, ever, operate an orbital
sander while drinking! LOL


Dean
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Terry Coombs wrote:

>Dean wrote:
>> Terry Coombs wrote:
>>
>>> I'm using a "code E" headlight reflector with a regular h4 bulb ,
>>> along with a pair of H 7616 sealed beam lamps in the stock passing lamp
>>
>> Searched the net high and low and can find no links referring to code
>> "E" reflectors for MC headlights, make, model or supplier? Plenty of
>> data for autos but none for bikes.
>
> The bike had it when I bought it . Frito can toss in more info , he
>bought his . He's the one that clued me in on what mine is . I just knew
>it worked very well . I just went out and got the info . It's a Bosch ,
>the numbers are :SAE M76 DOT --space-- 1305 603 038 .
>>
>> Was the reflector a straight swap in the housing with no fiddling?
>
> Yup , direct replacement for the original .
>>
>> How about those passing lamps. Any load equalizer or modifications
>> required for more wattage? Do they plug into the stock socket or did
>> you have to modify it?
>
> These are a sealed beam unit that goes in the stock passing lamp
>housing . Screw terminal connections just like the OEM lamp .
>>
>>> cans . These lamps are also used as small aircraft landing lights , and
>>> they throw a tight beam way out there . Be careful how they're aimed !
>>> The rear is well lit , bagger style , but you're looking for a Sportster
>>> cure ...
>>
>> snip
>>> --
>>> Snag , all lit up .
>>
>> I dated a girl like you in high school. She told me she had nice tits,
>> but would never expose them.
>>
>> Pull up your ratty tee shirt & I'll buy you a drink.
>>
>> Dean
>> '06 FLHR
>>
>>
>>
>
>Uh dude , I don't swing that way , I'm as hetero a male as you'll ever
>meet . I'll leave my shirt down and you can keep that drink .
> --
> Snag

Thanks for the poop. I'll drink that beer myself.

Barkeep, server a round of Chevis on me.

Dean
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Terry Coombs wrote:

>Dean wrote:
>> Terry Coombs wrote:
>>
>>> I'm using a "code E" headlight reflector with a regular h4 bulb ,
>>> along with a pair of H 7616 sealed beam lamps in the stock passing lamp
>>
>> Searched the net high and low and can find no links referring to code
>> "E" reflectors for MC headlights, make, model or supplier? Plenty of
>> data for autos but none for bikes.
>
> The bike had it when I bought it . Frito can toss in more info , he
>bought his . He's the one that clued me in on what mine is . I just knew
>it worked very well . I just went out and got the info . It's a Bosch ,
>the numbers are :SAE M76 DOT --space-- 1305 603 038 .
>>
>> Was the reflector a straight swap in the housing with no fiddling?
>
> Yup , direct replacement for the original .
>>
>> How about those passing lamps. Any load equalizer or modifications
>> required for more wattage? Do they plug into the stock socket or did
>> you have to modify it?
>
> These are a sealed beam unit that goes in the stock passing lamp
>housing . Screw terminal connections just like the OEM lamp .
>>
>>> cans . These lamps are also used as small aircraft landing lights , and
>>> they throw a tight beam way out there . Be careful how they're aimed !
>>> The rear is well lit , bagger style , but you're looking for a Sportster
>>> cure ...
>>
>> snip
>>> --
>>> Snag , all lit up .
>>
>> I dated a girl like you in high school. She told me she had nice tits,
>> but would never expose them.
>>
>> Pull up your ratty tee shirt & I'll buy you a drink.
>>
>> Dean
>> '06 FLHR
>>
>>
>>
>
>Uh dude , I don't swing that way , I'm as hetero a male as you'll ever
>meet . I'll leave my shirt down and you can keep that drink .
> --
> Snag

Some info on bulbs, etc. For what it's worth.

http://www.ratwell.com/technical/BoschH4.html

Too much information for me.

Dean
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Dean wrote:
> Terry Coombs wrote:
>
>> Dean wrote:
>>> Terry Coombs wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm using a "code E" headlight reflector with a regular h4 bulb ,
>>>> along with a pair of H 7616 sealed beam lamps in the stock passing lamp
>>> Searched the net high and low and can find no links referring to code
>>> "E" reflectors for MC headlights, make, model or supplier? Plenty of
>>> data for autos but none for bikes.
>> The bike had it when I bought it . Frito can toss in more info , he
>> bought his . He's the one that clued me in on what mine is . I just knew
>> it worked very well . I just went out and got the info . It's a Bosch ,
>> the numbers are :SAE M76 DOT --space-- 1305 603 038 .
>>> Was the reflector a straight swap in the housing with no fiddling?
>> Yup , direct replacement for the original .
>>> How about those passing lamps. Any load equalizer or modifications
>>> required for more wattage? Do they plug into the stock socket or did
>>> you have to modify it?
>> These are a sealed beam unit that goes in the stock passing lamp
>> housing . Screw terminal connections just like the OEM lamp .
>>>> cans . These lamps are also used as small aircraft landing lights , and
>>>> they throw a tight beam way out there . Be careful how they're aimed !
>>>> The rear is well lit , bagger style , but you're looking for a Sportster
>>>> cure ...
>>> snip
>>>> --
>>>> Snag , all lit up .
>>> I dated a girl like you in high school. She told me she had nice tits,
>>> but would never expose them.
>>>
>>> Pull up your ratty tee shirt & I'll buy you a drink.
>>>
>>> Dean
>>> '06 FLHR
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Uh dude , I don't swing that way , I'm as hetero a male as you'll ever
>> meet . I'll leave my shirt down and you can keep that drink .
>> --
>> Snag
>
> Some info on bulbs, etc. For what it's worth.
>
> http://www.ratwell.com/technical/BoschH4.html
>
> Too much information for me.
>
> Dean
>
I think that's the same link I found when I googled the numbers off
my light . Didn't seem to be exactly what I was looking for .
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Snag
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Dan, danl wrote:
>>>> "Dan, danl" wrote:
>>>>> I have some ideas about lighting on my scoot so grab a drink and tell
>>>>> me what you think of them.
>>
>> http://www.weekendconcepts.com/bullet.html
>>
>> http://www.bamph.com/rmh/KurSpots.htm
>
> I had read that article a long time ago. That's what started me
> thinking about putting more light in front this winter.
>
> Now I have lots to think about. Thanks
>
> Let me buy you a drink.
>
> danl

Appreciate that. I haven't done it but its on the list, along with a new roof and a few
other nits.

For virtually no cost you can put in a hi-po bulb.

Next one's on me.

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Terry Coombs wrote:

>Dean wrote:
>> Terry Coombs wrote:
>>
>>> Dean wrote:
>>>> Terry Coombs wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm using a "code E" headlight reflector with a regular h4 bulb ,
>>>>> along with a pair of H 7616 sealed beam lamps in the stock passing lamp
>>>> Searched the net high and low and can find no links referring to code
>>>> "E" reflectors for MC headlights, make, model or supplier? Plenty of
>>>> data for autos but none for bikes.
>>> The bike had it when I bought it . Frito can toss in more info , he
>>> bought his . He's the one that clued me in on what mine is . I just knew
>>> it worked very well . I just went out and got the info . It's a Bosch ,
>>> the numbers are :SAE M76 DOT --space-- 1305 603 038 .
>>>> Was the reflector a straight swap in the housing with no fiddling?
>>> Yup , direct replacement for the original .
>>>> How about those passing lamps. Any load equalizer or modifications
>>>> required for more wattage? Do they plug into the stock socket or did
>>>> you have to modify it?
>>> These are a sealed beam unit that goes in the stock passing lamp
>>> housing . Screw terminal connections just like the OEM lamp .
>>>>> cans . These lamps are also used as small aircraft landing lights , and
>>>>> they throw a tight beam way out there . Be careful how they're aimed !
>>>>> The rear is well lit , bagger style , but you're looking for a Sportster
>>>>> cure ...
>>>> snip
>>>>> --
>>>>> Snag , all lit up .
>>>> I dated a girl like you in high school. She told me she had nice tits,
>>>> but would never expose them.
>>>>
>>>> Pull up your ratty tee shirt & I'll buy you a drink.
>>>>
>>>> Dean
>>>> '06 FLHR
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Uh dude , I don't swing that way , I'm as hetero a male as you'll ever
>>> meet . I'll leave my shirt down and you can keep that drink .
>>> --
>>> Snag
>>
>> Some info on bulbs, etc. For what it's worth.
>>
>> http://www.ratwell.com/technical/BoschH4.html
>>
>> Too much information for me.
>>
>> Dean
>>
> I think that's the same link I found when I googled the numbers off
>my light . Didn't seem to be exactly what I was looking for .
> --
> Snag


I couldn't pin your numbers down either. But what I did find was
informative for me, having no prior understanding of the subject.

Dean
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Dean wrote:
>
> >>>> Terry Coombs wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I'm using a "code E" headlight reflector with a regular h4 bulb ,

======================= Snip-a-lot ===========================

http://www.rallylights.com/hella/5.75_lo.asp
Product ID: HL79564
5.75" Round ECE H4 Headlamps w/o bulb, each $41.63

http://www.rallylights.com/hella/7in.asp
Product ID: HL79562
7" Round ECE H4 Headlamps w/o bulb, each $31.97

http://www.rallylights.com/hella/H4.asp
Product ID: HL78158
Description: 78158 H4 100/55W Replacement Bulb, each $7.84

On my Road King I run the 7" and the 100/55 bulb.
I also run two 55 watt H1(one)'s in the passing lamps which can be purchased
at WalMart.

My passing/running lights *stay on* with the headlamp either on High or Low beam.

Note:
A 100 watt high beam may be illegal. <shrug>
Some users of the 100 watt bulb have had problems with heat melting the connector.
A very low resistance connection for the bulb and its plug is imperative.
Some users changed their H4 socket to a ceramic one. I used a product called
PENETROX on the prongs of the H4 bulb and connector and have had NO heat problems.
Penetrox is an antioxidant used by electricians to stop electrolysis from happening
when dissimilar metals are connected... particularly aluminum and copper. When
applying PENETROX to connectors and sockets be careful NOT to allow the material
to cross over to any other connector or ground. PENETROX is a conductor of
electrical current.

Having running lights ON and headlight HI beams ON is illegal. <shrug>

Putting out THAT much light with your headlight/running lights misadjusted...
probably will get you a 'punch in the neck'! <g>
HINT: Adjust your headlight/running lights while the bike is two up and fully loaded.

HTH
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Hey stranger!

I haven't seen you much around here since I saw you last in person. How you
been?
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Doug wrote:
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> Bear.RemoveThis@anywhere.invalid sezz:
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> <schnip!>
>
> Hey stranger!
>
> I haven't seen you much around here since I saw you last in person. How you
> been?

And that fabulous ride to the Key's was the last IRL of the season for me. Been
busy with family. Hope to see you at some IRL's this year. EKIII is a definite
for me.
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