Hey Jules and stalling

lemmiwinks.au RemoveThis @gmail.com wrote:
> bikerbetty wrote:

> > Is there anything I can do to stop the GPX stalling every time I gear
> > down at lights? As soon as the temps fall below zero (and we get a lot
> > of that here) I have a bugger of a time at lights- and it's a bit scary
> > when cars come hooning up behind me and I'm frantically trying to
> > restart the engine, especially as it's still dark at that time....
> >
> > Any suggestions? (apart from the obvious *take the bus*, ha ha)
>
> Little blip of the throttle on the downshifts? Normally keeps it alive
> for me on frosty mornings, plus you get to sound like a racer!

Thanks for the suggestions, folks - major service is due, so will ask
for the idle speed to be adjusted and hope it makes a difference.
Blipping the throttle hasn't made any difference at minus 7 (sounds
nice though, hee hee, just before it dies!)

betty
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bikerbetty wrote:

> Thanks for the suggestions, folks - major service is due, so will ask
> for the idle speed to be adjusted and hope it makes a difference.
> Blipping the throttle hasn't made any difference at minus 7 (sounds
> nice though, hee hee, just before it dies!)

Only -7C?! Pffft, shorts and t shirts weather mate. 'Twas -8C @ 7am
this morning.
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FuTAnT wrote:
> "Dave Milligan" <dave.TakeThisOut@SPAMTRAPgetrouted.com.au> wrote in message
> >>
> > Wasn't there a problem with (some) Kawasakis and icing fuel bowls?
> >
> > Someone will be along soon with the answer.
> >
> > Kind regards
> > Dave Milligan
>
> Yeah, rather common problem with the ZX6/9 etc ranges from a number of years
> back, not sure if things like the GPX has similar problems though.

There was a young fella from Cooma posting here a while back who had a
newish (~2003?) GPX250 that had carburettor de-icing hosework fitted as
standard. I never had carb icing problems with The Jackal even on
those -6C mornings commuting from Tarago to Canberra, maybe they had
problems with properly cold weather though?


BTH
(Waiting for a puerile followup from Big/Pat/Clem...)
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lemmiwinks.au.RemoveThis@gmail.com wrote:
> bikerbetty wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the suggestions, folks - major service is due, so will ask
> > for the idle speed to be adjusted and hope it makes a difference.
> > Blipping the throttle hasn't made any difference at minus 7 (sounds
> > nice though, hee hee, just before it dies!)
>
> Only -7C?! Pffft, shorts and t shirts weather mate. 'Twas -8C @ 7am
> this morning.

Erk! You can keep that..... you and the penguins... I prefer it to hit
the zero mark before 10am...

I don't actually mind the cold - prefer it to the heat, anyway.... and
it was one of my main reasons for moving to Canberra. Gotta love that
crisp sparkly cold! (Well, as long as I'm dressed for it!) Every part
of me is warmer on the bike (apart from my fingers) than I ever was on
the bus, and I don't have to sit and muck about getting ice off the
windows before I can leave the driveway, the way I used to in my car.

If the stalling problem would go away I'd be a happy little vegemite.
Let's hope Uncle Bruce can fix it, or at the very least, make it a bit
better...

Somebody earlier in this thread mentioned the Cooma guy and the warming
hoses - a friend was telling me today that you can get them fitted -
which leads me to even more questions - how expensive? and would it be
worth it on a '97 bike... (albeit a hardly used one...had only 20,000
on it when I got it, and only has 32,000 now) that I don't intend
keeping for more than about another year...

betty
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"bikerbetty" <bikerbetty.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote
> Any suggestions? (apart from the obvious *take the bus*, ha ha)
>

I would have thought the obvious was to get out of Canberra.

--
Dale Porter
GPX250 -> CBR600 -> CBR954 + VTR1000
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bikerbetty wrote:
>
> If the stalling problem would go away I'd be a happy little vegemite.

Probably just upping the idle slightly will work.

> Somebody earlier in this thread mentioned the Cooma guy and the warming
> hoses - a friend was telling me today that you can get them fitted -
> which leads me to even more questions - how expensive?

Don't worry about it, it's almost certainly not carb icing.

(IK's point about jetting is that Canberra isn't at enough of an
altitude to need jetting changes. HTH.)

-----sharks
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IK wrote:
> Andrew McKenna wrote:
> >
> > Both altitude and latitude can change jetting
> > requirements, so if your bike originally came
> > from Brisbane and hasn't been re-jetted for
> > Canberra, you should ask your mechanic to
> > check this at the service.
>
> Being female, chances are Betty already has enough trouble getting
> mechanics to take her seriously.

No, only car mechanics have been like that with me. The bloke I take
the bike to is terrific - explains stuff to me, shows me stuff
(probably because I sound interested and he knows I want to learn about
it.) Besides, his workshop is only small and he only has one offsider
- I find set-ups like that are always more helpful.

Don't know what some of the bigger places would be like...

betty
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Soory Betty, the date got brought forward, and I've been and gone again. Of
course it rained a little bit, so it wasn't as cold as I was dressed for.
Sigh...

Jules

"bikerbetty" <bikerbetty DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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>I remember you saying you were coming to Canberra in late June.....
>
> Rug up - we've had a couple of minus 7 mornings!
>
> Related to the freezing weather is this question for any other
> cold-weather dwellers/riders...
>
> Is there anything I can do to stop the GPX stalling every time I gear
> down at lights? As soon as the temps fall below zero (and we get a lot
> of that here) I have a bugger of a time at lights- and it's a bit scary
> when cars come hooning up behind me and I'm frantically trying to
> restart the engine, especially as it's still dark at that time....
>
> Any suggestions? (apart from the obvious *take the bus*, ha ha)
>
> thanks
> betty
>
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> (Waiting for a puerile followup from Big/Pat/Clem...)

Tee hee, he said "puerile"!, Sounds like booth!

big (I'd _hate_ to disappoint you there Ben!)

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On 28 Jun 2006 19:04:26 +1000, GB <gb0506.DeleteThis@kickindanuts.threefiddy.com>
wrote:

>"bikerbetty" <bikerbetty.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in
>news:1151443603.391495.116820@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com:
>> Any suggestions? (apart from the obvious *take the bus*, ha ha)
>
> Increase the idle speed a bit for the winter? On the ZZR the idle
>screw is easily accessible from the outside, on the left about where
>the inside of your knee/calf goes when you're sitting on the bike.
>It's in the owners manual.
>
> At a guess, it's in a similar spot on the GPX. Adjust it up (in
>your driveway, not while you're stalled at the lights) until
>the engine revs hard enough to keep itself alive when stopped.
>Remember to adjust it back down again when the weather warms up.
>
> Consider also that tweaking the idle will mask the problem, but
>if there's anything more significant going on, that won't go away.
>I'm not sufficiently familiar with the GPX/ZZR engine to comment
>specifically, but on some engines there is a mechanism to supply
>additional fuel and/or slow the closing of the throttle butterfly
>when the operator has taken their hand/foot off the throttle and
>let it 'slam' closed - that's designed to stop stalling too.
>
Wasn't there a problem with (some) Kawasakis and icing fuel bowls?

Someone will be along soon with the answer.

Kind regards
Dave Milligan
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"Dave Milligan" <dave.DeleteThis@SPAMTRAPgetrouted.com.au> wrote in message
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> On 28 Jun 2006 19:04:26 +1000, GB <gb0506.DeleteThis@kickindanuts.threefiddy.com>
> wrote:
>
>>"bikerbetty" <bikerbetty.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in
>>news:1151443603.391495.116820@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com:
>>> Any suggestions? (apart from the obvious *take the bus*, ha ha)
>>
>> Increase the idle speed a bit for the winter? On the ZZR the idle
>>screw is easily accessible from the outside, on the left about where
>>the inside of your knee/calf goes when you're sitting on the bike.
>>It's in the owners manual.
>>
>> At a guess, it's in a similar spot on the GPX. Adjust it up (in
>>your driveway, not while you're stalled at the lights) until
>>the engine revs hard enough to keep itself alive when stopped.
>>Remember to adjust it back down again when the weather warms up.
>>
>> Consider also that tweaking the idle will mask the problem, but
>>if there's anything more significant going on, that won't go away.
>>I'm not sufficiently familiar with the GPX/ZZR engine to comment
>>specifically, but on some engines there is a mechanism to supply
>>additional fuel and/or slow the closing of the throttle butterfly
>>when the operator has taken their hand/foot off the throttle and
>>let it 'slam' closed - that's designed to stop stalling too.
>>
> Wasn't there a problem with (some) Kawasakis and icing fuel bowls?
>
> Someone will be along soon with the answer.
>
> Kind regards
> Dave Milligan

Yeah, rather common problem with the ZX6/9 etc ranges from a number of years
back, not sure if things like the GPX has similar problems though. It would
show itself while riding along though, not at the lights. More than likely
the thing is just bloody cold and may need a touch more fuel at idle (richen
it up a bit in winter) and the idle speed adjusted correctly.

Of course, it could be something more complex, but that'l solve it in the
mean time.

Cam
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Andrew McKenna wrote:
>
> Both altitude and latitude can change jetting
> requirements, so if your bike originally came
> from Brisbane and hasn't been re-jetted for
> Canberra, you should ask your mechanic to
> check this at the service.

Being female, chances are Betty already has enough trouble getting
mechanics to take her seriously.
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