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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 7:32 am
Post subject: Heros
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 4:01 pm
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Rog BS#207 wrote:
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> Have a drink while you watch this.
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> members.cox.net/classicweb/Heroes/heroes.htm
Thanks for the link Ralph....the presentation begs a reply.
The messages in this presentation rely on the words of past patriots -
words spoken in response primarily to the oppression of Imperial
Britain. To twist those words to the current purpose is propoganda at
it's best...topped off with the all too familiar "Never Forget" which
fortunately was not preceeded by "Never Forgive"...but maybe that is
implied. Pleas of emotion with centuries old patriotic rhetoric are
pleas of despair.
Even if one accepts as reality this emotional attachment for motivation
- think of the remainder of the world who might also never forget and
fail to forgive when your children inherit our country.
There is no facility given to look inward in the presentation, only
outward. It is for people who are most comfortable on one-way streets.
Democracy is not a one-way street and Liberty cannot be replaced with a
pseudo fascist police state where motivation is derived from neatly
arranged and inapplicable slogans.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 4:19 pm
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JMark <jmark.TakeThisOut@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in news:40322CE8.BFC@tampabay.rr.com:
> Rog BS#207 wrote:
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>> Have a drink while you watch this.
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>> members.cox.net/classicweb/Heroes/heroes.htm
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> Thanks for the link Ralph....the presentation begs a reply.
>
> The messages in this presentation rely on the words of past patriots -
> words spoken in response primarily to the oppression of Imperial
> Britain. To twist those words to the current purpose is propoganda at
> it's best...topped off with the all too familiar "Never Forget" which
> fortunately was not preceeded by "Never Forgive"...but maybe that is
> implied. Pleas of emotion with centuries old patriotic rhetoric are
> pleas of despair.
>
> Even if one accepts as reality this emotional attachment for motivation
> - think of the remainder of the world who might also never forget and
> fail to forgive when your children inherit our country.
>
> There is no facility given to look inward in the presentation, only
> outward. It is for people who are most comfortable on one-way streets.
> Democracy is not a one-way street and Liberty cannot be replaced with a
> pseudo fascist police state where motivation is derived from neatly
> arranged and inapplicable slogans.
See, there you go again being all logical and unemotional. How in the world
are you ever going to fit in with the controlling class of
WeThoughtAboutItOnceThirtyYearsAgoAndWeWon'tEverAgain decision makers and
their WeWereToldWhatToThinkAboutItThisWeekAndNeverEverNeededToThink flock
if you insist on thinking about every little nit picking thing?
Take the Soma, be a good little Beta, stick your nose up the nearest brown
circle and join the parade.
Everybody SING! We are marching, marching to Shibboleth...
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Spunky the Tuna
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 4:19 pm
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>Democracy is not a one-way street and Liberty cannot be replaced with a
pseudo fascist police state where motivation is derived from neatly
arranged and inapplicable slogans.<
That'd make a great slogan.
cram
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 4:40 pm
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--cram typed on Tuesday, February 17, 2004 12:35 PM -0800:
>> Democracy is not a one-way street and Liberty cannot be replaced with a
> pseudo fascist police state where motivation is derived from neatly
> arranged and inapplicable slogans.<
>
> That'd make a great slogan.
>
Awww, man! Time to clean my screen.....
SunShine - in da burgh
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 10:26 pm
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"JMark" <jmark.RemoveThis@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Rog BS#207 wrote:
> >
> > Have a drink while you watch this.
> >
> > members.cox.net/classicweb/Heroes/heroes.htm
>
> Thanks for the link Ralph....the presentation begs a reply.
>
> The messages in this presentation rely on the words of past patriots -
> words spoken in response primarily to the oppression of Imperial
> Britain. To twist those words to the current purpose is propoganda at
> it's best...topped off with the all too familiar "Never Forget" which
> fortunately was not preceeded by "Never Forgive"...but maybe that is
> implied. Pleas of emotion with centuries old patriotic rhetoric are
> pleas of despair.
>
> Even if one accepts as reality this emotional attachment for motivation
> - think of the remainder of the world who might also never forget and
> fail to forgive when your children inherit our country.
>
> There is no facility given to look inward in the presentation, only
> outward. It is for people who are most comfortable on one-way streets.
> Democracy is not a one-way street and Liberty cannot be replaced with a
> pseudo fascist police state where motivation is derived from neatly
> arranged and inapplicable slogans.
Oh bullshit! I live by "Remember The Maine". Oh wait - I had a great
grandfather on the other side of that one. Okay then, I live by "44-40 Or
Fight". Damn them Canucks. Well except for Tud and Phil and a couple of
others. Come to think about it and there are some damn nice folks up there.
Hah! It will be "Manifest Destiny Or Plum Soda!". Is that right? Screw it,
that's what I'm going with. This jingo/slogan stuff gives me a headache.
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Wayne
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 12:10 am
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JMark <jmark.DeleteThis@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>Rog BS#207 wrote:
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>> Have a drink while you watch this.
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<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.members.cox.net/classicweb/Heroes/heroes.htm" target="_blank">http://www.members.cox.net/classicweb/Heroes/heroes.htm</a>
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>Thanks for the link Ralph....the presentation begs a reply.
>
><snip>
>To twist those words to the current purpose is propoganda at
>it's best...topped off with the all too familiar "Never Forget"
I'll never forget. That morning, on TV at work, I watched the
second plane disappear into the side of the building like a hot
knife through butter and then EXPLODE out the other side.
Horrific.
But, I'll also never forget that I didn't vote for Dubya the
first time and I sure as hell ain't going to vote for him this
go 'round despite fear and despair mongering similar to what
the URL provides.
But, yeah, it coulda been presented as a snapshot of a tragedy
that should indeed never be forgotten.
Thank you for the link, Rog.
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Curt
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 12:12 am
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Spunky the Tuna wrote:
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> JMark <jmark.RemoveThis@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in news:40322CE8.BFC@tampabay.rr.com:
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> > Rog BS#207 wrote:
> >>
> >> Have a drink while you watch this.
> >>
> >> members.cox.net/classicweb/Heroes/heroes.htm
> >
> > Thanks for the link Ralph....the presentation begs a reply.
> >
> > The messages in this presentation rely on the words of past patriots -
> > words spoken in response primarily to the oppression of Imperial
> > Britain. To twist those words to the current purpose is propoganda at
> > it's best...topped off with the all too familiar "Never Forget" which
> > fortunately was not preceeded by "Never Forgive"...but maybe that is
> > implied. Pleas of emotion with centuries old patriotic rhetoric are
> > pleas of despair.
> >
> > Even if one accepts as reality this emotional attachment for motivation
> > - think of the remainder of the world who might also never forget and
> > fail to forgive when your children inherit our country.
> >
> > There is no facility given to look inward in the presentation, only
> > outward. It is for people who are most comfortable on one-way streets.
> > Democracy is not a one-way street and Liberty cannot be replaced with a
> > pseudo fascist police state where motivation is derived from neatly
> > arranged and inapplicable slogans.
>
> See, there you go again being all logical and unemotional. How in the world
> are you ever going to fit in with the controlling class of
> WeThoughtAboutItOnceThirtyYearsAgoAndWeWon'tEverAgain decision makers and
> their WeWereToldWhatToThinkAboutItThisWeekAndNeverEverNeededToThink flock
> if you insist on thinking about every little nit picking thing?
>
> Take the Soma, be a good little Beta, stick your nose up the nearest brown
> circle and join the parade.
>
> Everybody SING! We are marching, marching to Shibboleth...
Cool password!
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 12:22 am
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dual45s wrote:
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> "JMark" <jmark.TakeThisOut@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:40322CE8.BFC@tampabay.rr.com...
> > Rog BS#207 wrote:
> > >
> > > Have a drink while you watch this.
> > >
> > > members.cox.net/classicweb/Heroes/heroes.htm
> >
> > Thanks for the link Ralph....the presentation begs a reply.
> >
> > The messages in this presentation rely on the words of past patriots -
> > words spoken in response primarily to the oppression of Imperial
> > Britain. To twist those words to the current purpose is propoganda at
> > it's best...topped off with the all too familiar "Never Forget" which
> > fortunately was not preceeded by "Never Forgive"...but maybe that is
> > implied. Pleas of emotion with centuries old patriotic rhetoric are
> > pleas of despair.
> >
> > Even if one accepts as reality this emotional attachment for motivation
> > - think of the remainder of the world who might also never forget and
> > fail to forgive when your children inherit our country.
> >
> > There is no facility given to look inward in the presentation, only
> > outward. It is for people who are most comfortable on one-way streets.
> > Democracy is not a one-way street and Liberty cannot be replaced with a
> > pseudo fascist police state where motivation is derived from neatly
> > arranged and inapplicable slogans.
>
> Oh bullshit! I live by "Remember The Maine". Oh wait - I had a great
> grandfather on the other side of that one. Okay then, I live by "44-40 Or
> Fight". Damn them Canucks. Well except for Tud and Phil and a couple of
> others. Come to think about it and there are some damn nice folks up there.
> Hah! It will be "Manifest Destiny Or Plum Soda!". Is that right? Screw it,
> that's what I'm going with. This jingo/slogan stuff gives me a headache.
"Remember the salsa - we're up to our ears in crackers 'round here"
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JMark
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 1:04 am
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"cram" <tcram.TakeThisOut@dbxpro.com> wrote in message
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> >Democracy is not a one-way street and Liberty cannot be replaced with a
> pseudo fascist police state where motivation is derived from neatly
> arranged and inapplicable slogans.<
>
> That'd make a great slogan.
I have that on a bumper sticker.
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 1:48 am
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Wakko wrote:
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> "cram" <tcram.TakeThisOut@dbxpro.com> wrote in message
> news:3810af57.0402171235.4b92925c@posting.google.com...
> > >Democracy is not a one-way street and Liberty cannot be replaced with a
> > pseudo fascist police state where motivation is derived from neatly
> > arranged and inapplicable slogans.<
> >
> > That'd make a great slogan.
>
> I have that on a bumper sticker.
The only bumper sticker I would have would say:
"I brake for hallucinations." In very tiny letters that would show that
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 3:16 am
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Rog BS#207 <rdouglass.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Have a drink while you watch this.
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> members.cox.net/classicweb/Heroes/heroes.htm
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> Ralph BS#207
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 3:04 pm
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"Spunky the Tuna" <spunkythetuna DeleteThis @bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> See, there you go again being all logical and unemotional. How in the
world
> are you ever going to fit in with the controlling class of
> WeThoughtAboutItOnceThirtyYearsAgoAndWeWon'tEverAgain decision makers and
> their WeWereToldWhatToThinkAboutItThisWeekAndNeverEverNeededToThink flock
> if you insist on thinking about every little nit picking thing?
aw spunky. you_know_ old jmark is the guy they wrote "the emperor's clothes"
about.
he can't resist pointing out the obvious.
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