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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 11:19 am
Post subject: Good boots important as are skid lids
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In a recent thread it was said that good quality (expensive helmets) are
ancillary and mostly good for noise reduction/comfort and on that one I
know 1st hand it's true and now just wear my $100 HJC flip up instead of a
Shoei X11. Why after nearly killing myself in a deer accident? The deer
badly broke my jaw (titanium plate now + $20K dental work) and I still got
a bad concussion of which I still can't remember over a month of the events
post accident (partly due to hospital induced coma).
However my boots were also a big issue and I wonder if I'd have still lost
my right foot and ankle if I wore my Alpinestar SVX boots instead of my low
armour Triumph everyday $100 riding boots?
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:58 pm
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On Feb 14, 12:19 pm, _Bob_Nixon_ <bi....RemoveThis@nospam.com> wrote:
> In a recent thread it was said that good quality (expensive helmets) are
> ancillary and mostly good for noise reduction/comfort and on that one I
> know 1st hand it's true and now just wear my $100 HJC flip up instead of a
> Shoei X11. Why after nearly killing myself in a deer accident? The deer
> badly broke my jaw (titanium plate now + $20K dental work) and I still got
> a bad concussion of which I still can't remember over a month of the events
> post accident (partly due to hospital induced coma).
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> However my boots were also a big issue and I wonder if I'd have still lost
> my right foot and ankle if I wore my Alpinestar SVX boots instead of my low
> armour Triumph everyday $100 riding boots?
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> --
> Bob Nixon, RZ-350, Chandler, AZ.
Must be a tough question to think on, Bob.
I wrestle with a similar one, but not quite as personally, or
permanently.
My fiance, Margaret, took to riding last season after three years as
pillion on my big bike, and hearing me talk about bikes and riding
over those three years. After her MSF class, getting her license, and
a few months of parking lot drills we started riding together. Per my
example and mandate, she wore full protective gear when riding -
except for the MC specific armored boots. Instead, she wore sturdy
hiking boots, as I often did.
Well, out in the country on my DR-Z400SM one day she missed a turn and
went off the road at about 45 mph. Bounced off the bike into a hard
packed dirt field after the ditch and badly broke her lower leg, just
above the ankle. Her foot/ankle did not come off, but looked about
like it wanted to, the way it dangled after the crash. (Everything
else was fine - thanks to god, leathers, 660 Denier, and a Nolan full
face helmet.) Anyway, two surgery's and eight months later, little
lady is still in pain, walking with a limp, and carrying around eight
screws and a plate inside her lower leg.
I used to think sturdy boots were enough, but since we now have the
technology and research on excellent foot/ankle protection (torsion
control systems, amazing levels of rigid support, titanium sliders,
etc.), it now seems foolish to me not to wear them.
So yeah - I'd say that really good boots are just about as important
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:34 pm
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On Feb 14, 7:02 pm, Steve Mackay <steve_mac....DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I own all Tour Master gear now. I've got the Intake mesh jacket, 1
> Impulse leather jacket(bought it on Ebay for $40 for a spare), 1 Impulse
> II leather jacket, Apex leather pants(bought both the pants and the
> jacket for $100 complete with full circumference zippers), and a
> "transition" 3/4 length jacket. I use their "jean" armored pant as my
> daily warm commute over-pants. They are loose enough, and it doesn't
> look like I'm wearing a snow suit  My wife sewed in an 8" attachment
> zipper to zip to the transition jacket.
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> I'm really happy with their jackets and pants. Their gloves... Well, the
> Scarab gloves I bought last year, some of the stitching I'm not entirely
> impressed with. But they fit me better than any other glove I've ever worn..
It is amazing how good gear is these days. First stuff I ever bought
outside a leather jacket and ski pants was Roadgear. I thought it was
fantastic until I bought Firstgear stuff which was FAR superior. But
pretty much any of it is just jaw dropping when you consider the level
of protection against crash damage and weather intrusion. With all
the choices of ventilation or insulation, I can wear my Firstgear
snowsuit in any conceivable riding condition completely comfortably.
I complain about the deficiencies of a lot of things. Motorcycle gear
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:14 pm
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"saddlebag" <saddlebag DeleteThis @aol.com> wrote in message
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>the choices of ventilation or insulation, I can wear my Firstgear
>snowsuit in any conceivable riding condition completely comfortably.
Even 110f? Across the desert?
>I complain about the deficiencies of a lot of things. Motorcycle gear
>isn't one of them.
Yep. Too bad most of it is made in 3rd world sweatshops though. >> Stay informed about: Good boots important as are skid lids |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:28 pm
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On Feb 14, 9:14 pm, "BryanUT" <nestl... DeleteThis @comcast.net> wrote:
> "saddlebag" <saddle... DeleteThis @aol.com> wrote in message
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> >the choices of ventilation or insulation, I can wear my Firstgear
> >snowsuit in any conceivable riding condition completely comfortably.
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> Even 110f? Across the desert?
OK, so nothing is comfortable for that long. But I've done my share
of 100°F days in 90%+ humidity up and down the eastern US. In those
temps it really doesn't matter what the hell you wear as misery is
misery.
> >I complain about the deficiencies of a lot of things. Motorcycle gear
> >isn't one of them.
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> Yep. Too bad most of it is made in 3rd world sweatshops though.
I'm a consumer pig like everyone else. What would all those 3rd world
babies do if I didn't help provide them their slave labor? Better to
sew than starve right? >> Stay informed about: Good boots important as are skid lids |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 8:47 pm
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"saddlebag" <saddlebag RemoveThis @aol.com> wrote in message
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>of 100°F days in 90%+ humidity up and down the eastern US. In those
Humidity, living out west that is a distant memory, I think we call 30%
humid. Humid is whenever the swamp cooler doesn't work well.
>I'm a consumer pig like everyone else. What would all those 3rd world
>babies do if I didn't help provide them their slave labor? Better to
>sew than starve right?
What are you? A corporate shill? Sheesh, sometimes you sound like a
Republican, hehe.
I hope you realize that it is not and either / or proposition? But as you
admit, I am also guilty with my Joe Rocket gear that is serving me well. I
just wish it was made in America, by American Slaves. ( Is that a bad thing
to say?) >> Stay informed about: Good boots important as are skid lids |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 2:55 am
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_Bob_Nixon_ <bilbo RemoveThis @nospam.com> wrote:
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> However my boots were also a big issue and I wonder if I'd have still lost
> my right foot and ankle if I wore my Alpinestar SVX boots instead of my low
> armour Triumph everyday $100 riding boots?
I have the opposite question - I had a decent tumble at the track with my
Sidi boots that have the exoskeleton. The boots took one hell of a beating
while I was tumbling. It wasn't until a couple days later when I was in the
gym working calves that I noticed my left ankle was slightly tweaked. Nothing
bad - went away in a couple weeks and I rarely noticed it while it was there.
But I gotta wonder how bad it would have been without the exoskeleton. The
problem is there is no way to really test this stuff in the real world. Also,
for every day riding, I wear the standard Sidi boots because the race/track
ones with the exoskeleton are really spaceboy looking, and not comfortable
at all. It wouldn't work out well going to an office where I don't have
a spare set of shoes waiting for me, or some place where I will be walking
around all day. The Sidi boots I have for daily use have some armor, but
no anti-torsion stuff. They don't seem to make this exact model anymore, so
I might look into some Rev'it boots that seemed similar, and also acceptable
for walking around the office in.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 3:17 am
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On Feb 14, 10:47 pm, "BryanUT" <nestl... DeleteThis @comcast.net> wrote:
> "saddlebag" <saddle... DeleteThis @aol.com> wrote in message
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> >of 100°F days in 90%+ humidity up and down the eastern US. In those
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> Humidity, living out west that is a distant memory, I think we call 30%
> humid. Humid is whenever the swamp cooler doesn't work well.
>
> >I'm a consumer pig like everyone else. What would all those 3rd world
> >babies do if I didn't help provide them their slave labor? Better to
> >sew than starve right?
>
> What are you?
Ready for work.
> A corporate shill?
Yeah, I gots to do that too I suppose.
> Sheesh, sometimes you sound like a Republican, hehe.
No. To sound like a Republican I'd have to create a boogieman out of
the slaves and force you to give me all your money and freedoms to
protect you from them. I'm just a realist.
> I hope you realize that it is not and either / or proposition?
But in reality is probably is. Would you work for pennies a day if
your life sustaining needs were being met?
> But as you admit, I am also guilty with my Joe Rocket gear that is serving me well.
Corporate fascist peeg!
> I just wish it was made in America, by American Slaves. ( Is that a bad thing to say?)
Don't worry, give it 20 or 30 years and I think you'll see some
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:54 am
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On Feb 15, 5:17 am, saddlebag <saddle....RemoveThis@aol.com> wrote:
> On Feb 14, 10:47 pm, "BryanUT" <nestl....RemoveThis@comcast.net> wrote:
> > I just wish it was made in America, by American Slaves. ( Is that a bad thing to say?)
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> Don't worry, give it 20 or 30 years and I think you'll see some
> pronounced world role reversals.
It'll be textile factories and cotton fields for us all - for just a
few dirty New Yuan a day.
In the meantime, there is some great gear from Cortech/Tourmaster for
a very affordable price. I also love the FirstGear stuff. Seems
almost as good as aerostitch gear, at about 1/3 the price.
For sportriding, there's nothing like perforated Italian leather,
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 2:02 pm
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On Feb 15, 1:54 pm, Vaughn <vbra... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 15, 5:17 am, saddlebag <saddle... RemoveThis @aol.com> wrote:
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> > On Feb 14, 10:47 pm, "BryanUT" <nestl... RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote:
> > > I just wish it was made in America, by American Slaves. ( Is that a bad thing to say?)
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> > Don't worry, give it 20 or 30 years and I think you'll see some
> > pronounced world role reversals.
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> It'll be textile factories and cotton fields for us all - for just a
> few dirty New Yuan a day.
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> In the meantime, there is some great gear from Cortech/Tourmaster for
> a very affordable price. I also love the FirstGear stuff. Seems
> almost as good as aerostitch gear, at about 1/3 the price.
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> For sportriding, there's nothing like perforated Italian leather,
> though.
Having worn leather for many years, I just can't get excited about a
material that is way more expensive, weighs a ton more, isn't
waterproof, and likely isn't nearly as well ventilated. It looks good
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 2:11 pm
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On Feb 15, 4:02 pm, saddlebag <saddle....RemoveThis@aol.com> wrote:
> > For sportriding, there's nothing like perforated Italian leather,
> > though.
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> Having worn leather for many years, I just can't get excited about a
> material that is way more expensive, weighs a ton more, isn't
> waterproof, and likely isn't nearly as well ventilated. It looks good
> on thin people though.
Besides the added protection and sleekness, leather is also very
useful on an undertail exhaust bike like my 675 Spitfire.  It is
a cooker once hot.
But whenever I ride my ST bike, Firstgear pants and a Cortech
Transition Jacket are the usual attire. Definitely better for long
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 7:26 pm
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"_Bob_Nixon_" <bilbo.DeleteThis@nospam.com> wrote in > However my boots were also a big
issue and I wonder if I'd have still lost
> my right foot and ankle if I wore my Alpinestar SVX boots instead of my
> low
> armour Triumph everyday $100 riding boots?
When I had my deer bashing, I was wearing a pair of Sidi On Roads. They
stayed on, and I had no abrasions whatsoever, but do remember my feet still
took a vicious pounding as I tumbled down the highway at 70 mph or so.
I ended up with a few fractured metacarpals and of course, my pulverized
wrist, but my boots did a decent job of preventing more serious foot
injuries.
All my gratitude to Arai, Aerostich and Sidi for saving my life!
No kidding.
Glad you're still with us, regardless.
Jim S
Ducati 916
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