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Since: Sep 05, 2003 Posts: 1068
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2003 2:24 pm
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Being smack in the middle of holidays and this being a daily question, I'm
seeking to broaden my understanding about the options available when
selecting gifts for family and friends. Starting when I was in high school
and had my first self-generated discretionary income, I have made a solid
effort to get The Perfect Gift for those most important to me. This effort
has increased each year... The definition of "perfect gift" has become
more exactly defined... more.. challenging to meet, over time. I now catch
myself seeking the "home run gift" for my wife and daughter and a few
friends. This occurs at Christmas as well as other normal gifting times...
birthdays... anniversary... mom's/daughter's day.. etc.
A home run is, according to current thinking, something that first meets a
critical out-of-the-ordinary need... if such a need exists. And then if no
such need does exist both delights and surprises the most. I don't think
these are especially bad things to shoot for though I'd hate to imply to
any in here I am less an asshole because of it. They are not mutually
exclusive:)
Early on... these are easy objectives to realize. A toboggan when we first
got married. I remember I *knew* that would work the moment I saw it.
Really, no effort. Or when microwaves first came out, I remember getting
my parents the best one out with pay earned from my first real job was a
huge home run (even if getting the enormous box home in a Trans Am in the
snow was a challenge... it added to it actually:) (actually, that year I
got pulled over by a Mass State cop for driving home with a HUGE stuffed
bear seat-belted into the shotgun seat for my then girlfriend/now wife for
obstructed visibility. Dork.). As time goes on... it's still not real
complicated to hit home runs for my daughter because she's a different
person each year. You just have to listen. For my wife, it's much harder
each year to figure out what the home run gift is... Personally, I can't
stand gift certificates. Those feel like I'm telling them I wasn't willing
to put the effort in to figure out something that would make them happy to
receive it. 3 years ago... my current SHIT Mercedes was actually a
carefully orchestrated Christmas gift to my wife... Safety... comfort..
convenience... She could stop driving the car she had then which she
didn't like (and for the life of me, I can't recall now... I need some
tuna). Home run on Christmas day... I felt like I got the most perfect of
all gifts (friends put it in the driveway at 2am Christmas Eve night and
the key was hanging from the tree as an ornament.... You have any idea
what it costs to replace that damn key????). And until we realized that
the $5000 fancy seat package was killing her back, it remained a great
gift. Now, even that year as some will remember... I thought it was a
little less perfect because it costs too much. In my mind, the *art* of
the gift is about the impact... not the price. Price is a cheap way to
impact... it's cheating. I believe the following would be a good model for
how I compute the goodness of the gift:
Homerun Q factor = Impact/cost
Anyone can buy a result... art requires thinking. Another corollary I hold
to this is that gifts of some kind of experience... building memories..
are better than "stuff". Instead of "stuff", I fed my daughter's love of
all things Japanese by taking her to NY... giving her a shopping spree in
a store she never gets to see... lunch (with all the pain and horrid
tastes and no blood flow from my ass on down) in a very authentic Japanese
restaurant... dinner with a friend visiting from Tokyo and his artist
wife. My best ever with her:)
For my wife, all the events since the car... birthdays.. Christmases...
whatever.. I'm killing my ass trying to hit that home run. I'm certain
this is a fault in me... it *must* be out there. She's by no means
demanding... like.. her list has stuff like a "new outlet on the Kitchen
counter" on it. But the search... beyond a certain amount of effort... is
royally destroying the holidays for me. This is my absolute favorite time
of year, but I'm programmed to hit the home run.. It's my *job*... I can't
let people down on this... I'm just curious what you folks all do. Am I
just coming up short on good ideas or is there another path? So far, this
holiday season ***sucks*** because I can't come up with squat that meets
the definition. Any and all perspectives appreciated.
Thanks,
Mike
--
Yours respectfully,
Robert Falcon Scott
N42d 07.084'
W72d 22.344'
"Had we lived, I should have had a tale to tell of the hardihood,
endurance, and courage of my companions which would have stirred the heart
of every Englishman. These rough notes and our dead bodies must tell the
tale."
00 Kohler-driven Snow-Fighter
96 XR400
74 CZ250 Enduro
99 KZ1000P
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2003 2:24 pm
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So far, this
>holiday season ***sucks*** because I can't come up with squat that meets
>the definition. Any and all perspectives appreciated.
>
Mike:
Is it a gift for her? or a vindication for you?
Ask your daughter for suggestions. Bianca usually has excellent ideas
for what I should get Jenny. She called me up a few days ago to point
me to a hat and scarf that her Mom liked while they were shopping
together.
Beyond that, I'll think on it.
Jim Hall
520 EXC and others
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2003 2:24 pm
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"Mike W." <outofthe.RemoveThis@emailbiz.com> wrote
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<snipping the garbage leaving the meat>
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> Being smack in the middle of holidays and this being a daily question, I'm
> seeking The Perfect Gift for my wife.
>
> So far, this
> holiday season ***sucks*** because I can't come up with squat that meets
> the definition. Any and all perspectives appreciated.
1) Slow down
2) Be a warm loving friend for a day or two
3) Empty the swear jar and never cause a "clink" again
4) Stop being a dickhead
5) Listen
6) Do something unexpected (like put the damn outlet in the kitchen)
7) Be romantic (flowers, massage, bath, music ... etc)
 Watch her favorite movie with her (without complaint)
9) Do something that requires little or no outlay of cash
10) Be creative
11) Re-create an important occasion (first date, wedding night, etc)
12) Viagra
13) Wax your back
14) Make a video tape testifying to the depths of your love and commitment,
reminisce about good times and bad, make her laugh and cry.
15) Get on a health kick ... the best gift for your whole family.
The best gift is full of thought and completely unexpected.
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- 02 KTM200exc
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Since: Sep 05, 2003 Posts: 1068
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2003 3:31 pm
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On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 11:48:59 -0700, Jim Hall <jdhall.DeleteThis@nospammolaplateng.co>
wrote:
> So far, this
>>holiday season ***sucks*** because I can't come up with squat that meets
>>the definition. Any and all perspectives appreciated.
>>
>
>Mike:
>
>Is it a gift for her? or a vindication for you?
This is a great slant on the problem... I have always held, as a receiver
of gifts, that gifts are for the gift-GIVER. My job, no matter how little
I think personally of a gift is to make the giver feel like they hit it
out of the park. The real gift was their having taken the time... though
the little orange plastic screwdriver that my daughter gave me that she
picked out from the kindergarten holiday gift bazaar is the FIRST thing
I'll reach for if the house is on fire.
On the other hand, I don't factor my feelings into the selection... I
believe. Though the way my "mind" works is to figure out how to really
want whatever objective I'm going for. That can make it seem like the
giving is about me but it's just, hopefully, a motivational mechanism at
my end to succeed in the home run. It's just this year so far.. I don't
have squat and I'm spending 100% of my bandwidth trying to do well on this
and I'm wondering how other, more balanced members of RMD (if that exists)
think about it. It's less a question about a specific gift than about the
philosophy and mindset of gift giving. If I live into my 70's, this is
going to be a fucking nightmare at this rate.
>
>Ask your daughter for suggestions. Bianca usually has excellent ideas
>for what I should get Jenny. She called me up a few days ago to point
>me to a hat and scarf that her Mom liked while they were shopping
>together.
>
>Beyond that, I'll think on it.
Well... your email was a pretty neat idea and thanks. I'm seriously
considering this. I went 4 days without my cel phone at ISF and it damn
near killed me... but I'm thinking about it:)
Mike
>
>Jim Hall
>520 EXC and others
>turning Money into Noise...
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Yours respectfully,
Robert Falcon Scott
N42d 07.084'
W72d 22.344'
"Had we lived, I should have had a tale to tell of the hardihood,
endurance, and courage of my companions which would have stirred the heart
of every Englishman. These rough notes and our dead bodies must tell the
tale."
00 Kohler-driven Snow-Fighter
96 XR400
74 CZ250 Enduro
99 KZ1000P
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2003 4:20 pm
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"-jc" <SpamFree.RemoveThis@DieSpammers.com> wrote in message news:<brnlsf$13md$1@heap.juniper.net>...
> "Mike W." <outofthe.RemoveThis@emailbiz.com> wrote
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> <snipping the garbage leaving the meat>
> >
> > Being smack in the middle of holidays and this being a daily question, I'm
> > seeking The Perfect Gift for my wife.
> >
> > So far, this
> > holiday season ***sucks*** because I can't come up with squat that meets
> > the definition. Any and all perspectives appreciated.
>
> 13) Wax your back
I will second the vote on this!!!!!!Nothings worse then too much back hair!!!
Connie..bikeless in Pa
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2003 6:50 pm
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A Dirty Sanchez and a Cleveland Steamer.
Really, I don't have a clue. I've struck out so many times it's not funny.
PP
"Mike W." <outofthe.DeleteThis@emailbiz.com> wrote in message
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> Being smack in the middle of holidays and this being a daily question, I'm
> seeking to broaden my understanding about the options available when
> selecting gifts for family and friends. Starting when I was in high school
> and had my first self-generated discretionary income, I have made a solid
> effort to get The Perfect Gift for those most important to me. This effort
> has increased each year... The definition of "perfect gift" has become
> more exactly defined... more.. challenging to meet, over time. I now catch
> myself seeking the "home run gift" for my wife and daughter and a few
> friends. This occurs at Christmas as well as other normal gifting times...
> birthdays... anniversary... mom's/daughter's day.. etc.
>
> A home run is, according to current thinking, something that first meets a
> critical out-of-the-ordinary need... if such a need exists. And then if no
> such need does exist both delights and surprises the most. I don't think
> these are especially bad things to shoot for though I'd hate to imply to
> any in here I am less an asshole because of it. They are not mutually
> exclusive:)
>
> Early on... these are easy objectives to realize. A toboggan when we first
> got married. I remember I *knew* that would work the moment I saw it.
> Really, no effort. Or when microwaves first came out, I remember getting
> my parents the best one out with pay earned from my first real job was a
> huge home run (even if getting the enormous box home in a Trans Am in the
> snow was a challenge... it added to it actually:) (actually, that year I
> got pulled over by a Mass State cop for driving home with a HUGE stuffed
> bear seat-belted into the shotgun seat for my then girlfriend/now wife for
> obstructed visibility. Dork.). As time goes on... it's still not real
> complicated to hit home runs for my daughter because she's a different
> person each year. You just have to listen. For my wife, it's much harder
> each year to figure out what the home run gift is... Personally, I can't
> stand gift certificates. Those feel like I'm telling them I wasn't willing
> to put the effort in to figure out something that would make them happy to
> receive it. 3 years ago... my current SHIT Mercedes was actually a
> carefully orchestrated Christmas gift to my wife... Safety... comfort..
> convenience... She could stop driving the car she had then which she
> didn't like (and for the life of me, I can't recall now... I need some
> tuna). Home run on Christmas day... I felt like I got the most perfect of
> all gifts (friends put it in the driveway at 2am Christmas Eve night and
> the key was hanging from the tree as an ornament.... You have any idea
> what it costs to replace that damn key????). And until we realized that
> the $5000 fancy seat package was killing her back, it remained a great
> gift. Now, even that year as some will remember... I thought it was a
> little less perfect because it costs too much. In my mind, the *art* of
> the gift is about the impact... not the price. Price is a cheap way to
> impact... it's cheating. I believe the following would be a good model for
> how I compute the goodness of the gift:
>
> Homerun Q factor = Impact/cost
>
> Anyone can buy a result... art requires thinking. Another corollary I hold
> to this is that gifts of some kind of experience... building memories..
> are better than "stuff". Instead of "stuff", I fed my daughter's love of
> all things Japanese by taking her to NY... giving her a shopping spree in
> a store she never gets to see... lunch (with all the pain and horrid
> tastes and no blood flow from my ass on down) in a very authentic Japanese
> restaurant... dinner with a friend visiting from Tokyo and his artist
> wife. My best ever with her:)
>
> For my wife, all the events since the car... birthdays.. Christmases...
> whatever.. I'm killing my ass trying to hit that home run. I'm certain
> this is a fault in me... it *must* be out there. She's by no means
> demanding... like.. her list has stuff like a "new outlet on the Kitchen
> counter" on it. But the search... beyond a certain amount of effort... is
> royally destroying the holidays for me. This is my absolute favorite time
> of year, but I'm programmed to hit the home run.. It's my *job*... I can't
> let people down on this... I'm just curious what you folks all do. Am I
> just coming up short on good ideas or is there another path? So far, this
> holiday season ***sucks*** because I can't come up with squat that meets
> the definition. Any and all perspectives appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>
>
>
>
> --
> Yours respectfully,
> Robert Falcon Scott
> N42d 07.084'
> W72d 22.344'
>
> "Had we lived, I should have had a tale to tell of the hardihood,
> endurance, and courage of my companions which would have stirred the heart
> of every Englishman. These rough notes and our dead bodies must tell the
> tale."
>
> 00 Kohler-driven Snow-Fighter
> 96 XR400
> 74 CZ250 Enduro
> 99 KZ1000P
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2003 6:55 pm
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My wife says I should tell you about my gift about 4 years ago.
Rejoint and paint the ceiling.
Only took me 2 years to deliver.
PP
"Mike W." <outofthe DeleteThis @emailbiz.com> wrote in message
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>
> Being smack in the middle of holidays and this being a daily question, I'm
> seeking to broaden my understanding about the options available when
> selecting gifts for family and friends. Starting when I was in high school
> and had my first self-generated discretionary income, I have made a solid
> effort to get The Perfect Gift for those most important to me. This effort
> has increased each year... The definition of "perfect gift" has become
> more exactly defined... more.. challenging to meet, over time. I now catch
> myself seeking the "home run gift" for my wife and daughter and a few
> friends. This occurs at Christmas as well as other normal gifting times...
> birthdays... anniversary... mom's/daughter's day.. etc.
>
> A home run is, according to current thinking, something that first meets a
> critical out-of-the-ordinary need... if such a need exists. And then if no
> such need does exist both delights and surprises the most. I don't think
> these are especially bad things to shoot for though I'd hate to imply to
> any in here I am less an asshole because of it. They are not mutually
> exclusive:)
>
> Early on... these are easy objectives to realize. A toboggan when we first
> got married. I remember I *knew* that would work the moment I saw it.
> Really, no effort. Or when microwaves first came out, I remember getting
> my parents the best one out with pay earned from my first real job was a
> huge home run (even if getting the enormous box home in a Trans Am in the
> snow was a challenge... it added to it actually:) (actually, that year I
> got pulled over by a Mass State cop for driving home with a HUGE stuffed
> bear seat-belted into the shotgun seat for my then girlfriend/now wife for
> obstructed visibility. Dork.). As time goes on... it's still not real
> complicated to hit home runs for my daughter because she's a different
> person each year. You just have to listen. For my wife, it's much harder
> each year to figure out what the home run gift is... Personally, I can't
> stand gift certificates. Those feel like I'm telling them I wasn't willing
> to put the effort in to figure out something that would make them happy to
> receive it. 3 years ago... my current SHIT Mercedes was actually a
> carefully orchestrated Christmas gift to my wife... Safety... comfort..
> convenience... She could stop driving the car she had then which she
> didn't like (and for the life of me, I can't recall now... I need some
> tuna). Home run on Christmas day... I felt like I got the most perfect of
> all gifts (friends put it in the driveway at 2am Christmas Eve night and
> the key was hanging from the tree as an ornament.... You have any idea
> what it costs to replace that damn key????). And until we realized that
> the $5000 fancy seat package was killing her back, it remained a great
> gift. Now, even that year as some will remember... I thought it was a
> little less perfect because it costs too much. In my mind, the *art* of
> the gift is about the impact... not the price. Price is a cheap way to
> impact... it's cheating. I believe the following would be a good model for
> how I compute the goodness of the gift:
>
> Homerun Q factor = Impact/cost
>
> Anyone can buy a result... art requires thinking. Another corollary I hold
> to this is that gifts of some kind of experience... building memories..
> are better than "stuff". Instead of "stuff", I fed my daughter's love of
> all things Japanese by taking her to NY... giving her a shopping spree in
> a store she never gets to see... lunch (with all the pain and horrid
> tastes and no blood flow from my ass on down) in a very authentic Japanese
> restaurant... dinner with a friend visiting from Tokyo and his artist
> wife. My best ever with her:)
>
> For my wife, all the events since the car... birthdays.. Christmases...
> whatever.. I'm killing my ass trying to hit that home run. I'm certain
> this is a fault in me... it *must* be out there. She's by no means
> demanding... like.. her list has stuff like a "new outlet on the Kitchen
> counter" on it. But the search... beyond a certain amount of effort... is
> royally destroying the holidays for me. This is my absolute favorite time
> of year, but I'm programmed to hit the home run.. It's my *job*... I can't
> let people down on this... I'm just curious what you folks all do. Am I
> just coming up short on good ideas or is there another path? So far, this
> holiday season ***sucks*** because I can't come up with squat that meets
> the definition. Any and all perspectives appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>
>
>
>
> --
> Yours respectfully,
> Robert Falcon Scott
> N42d 07.084'
> W72d 22.344'
>
> "Had we lived, I should have had a tale to tell of the hardihood,
> endurance, and courage of my companions which would have stirred the heart
> of every Englishman. These rough notes and our dead bodies must tell the
> tale."
>
> 00 Kohler-driven Snow-Fighter
> 96 XR400
> 74 CZ250 Enduro
> 99 KZ1000P
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2003 7:52 pm
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On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 13:24:45 -0500, Mike W. <outofthe.DeleteThis@emailbiz.com>
wrote:
>For my wife, all the events since the car... birthdays.. Christmases...
>whatever.. I'm killing my ass trying to hit that home run. I'm certain
>this is a fault in me... it *must* be out there. She's by no means
>demanding... like.. her list has stuff like a "new outlet on the Kitchen
>counter" on it. But the search... beyond a certain amount of effort... is
>royally destroying the holidays for me. This is my absolute favorite time
>of year, but I'm programmed to hit the home run.. It's my *job*... I can't
>let people down on this... I'm just curious what you folks all do. Am I
>just coming up short on good ideas or is there another path? So far, this
>holiday season ***sucks*** because I can't come up with squat that meets
>the definition. Any and all perspectives appreciated.
Homebrewing equipment.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2003 8:05 pm
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Every 2-3 years, you get dangerously close to making sense on something.
Looks like it's your day again...
On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 11:19:42 -0800, "-jc" <SpamFree RemoveThis @DieSpammers.com>
wrote:
I think I see components of a wiser gift philosophy in here...
>
>1) Slow down
>2) Be a warm loving friend for a day or two
>3) Empty the swear jar and never cause a "clink" again
>4) Stop being a dickhead
>5) Listen
>6) Do something unexpected (like put the damn outlet in the kitchen)
>7) Be romantic (flowers, massage, bath, music ... etc)
> Watch her favorite movie with her (without complaint)
>9) Do something that requires little or no outlay of cash
>10) Be creative
>11) Re-create an important occasion (first date, wedding night, etc)
>12) Viagra
>13) Wax your back
>14) Make a video tape testifying to the depths of your love and commitment,
>reminisce about good times and bad, make her laugh and cry.
>15) Get on a health kick ... the best gift for your whole family.
>
3,4 and 15 go in the impossible category. 14 too... Wes made swear that
his was the only one of those I'd ever make.
12 and 13 are SO unnecessary.
6 - the outlet and two new lights are ON the counter as we speak and will
hopefully go in tonight, but thank you. Shit like that is too nothing to
be a gift. If she needs an outlet, she gets an outlet.
1 sounds SO attractive... I should work on that but it's not as easy as it
sounds to toss a long-held compulsive habit. I guess I can just pick
something "nice" out and give it.. but damn... people like getting
homeruns.
2 and 5-8 are all excellent advice too. The Merc proved that 9 is a best
practice too.
As you are trying to assist me, I won't comment on the extraordinary irony
of #10.
>The best gift is full of thought and completely unexpected.
100% agreed. I'm busting ass on the thought and unexpected side but, as
noted, I've got zip to show for it.
Maybe a framed copy of Cobra Grass?
Thanks.
Mike
--
Yours respectfully,
Robert Falcon Scott
N42d 07.084'
W72d 22.344'
"Had we lived, I should have had a tale to tell of the hardihood,
endurance, and courage of my companions which would have stirred the heart
of every Englishman. These rough notes and our dead bodies must tell the
tale."
00 Kohler-driven Snow-Fighter
96 XR400
74 CZ250 Enduro
99 KZ1000P
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2003 8:07 pm
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"Mike W." <.com> wrote in message
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> Being smack in the middle of holidays and this being a daily question, I'm
> seeking to broaden my understanding about the options available when
for some odd reason women like Tom Jones
i believe he still makes an occasional performance....
ring side seats might be a home run....
unless she like some other guy like Dave Mathews then
i would suppose the deal is off.....
(removal of the pain in her back might be a fine Gesture BTW)
john
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> This is a great slant on the problem... I have always held, as a receiver
> of gifts, that gifts are for the gift-GIVER. My job, no matter how little
> I think personally of a gift is to make the giver feel like they hit it
> out of the park. The real gift was their having taken the time... though
> the little orange plastic screwdriver that my daughter gave me that she
> picked out from the kindergarten holiday gift bazaar is the FIRST thing
> I'll reach for if the house is on fire.
Maybe you should grab your daughter first, then the screwdriver. But I'm
sure that's what you meant.
more snip
> >Ask your daughter for suggestions. Bianca usually has excellent ideas
> >for what I should get Jenny. She called me up a few days ago to point
> >me to a hat and scarf that her Mom liked while they were shopping
> >together.
That's always the best route. Well, other than just asking what she/they
want or the gift certificate.
You could always make a plaster cast of your hand with "Christmas 2003"
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2003 9:03 pm
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Every woman will love a high quality Vibrator, Hitachi makes the best.
You could include a couple of Butt Plugs and Dildos for Stocking
Stuffers. My Wife's favorite was a device called "The Anal Intruder",
it was kind of a battery powered, index finger looking thingie. Drugs
make a great gift as well, any woman would love to receive an eight-ball
of her favorite recreational drug. If you were to include all of the
above and top it off with a nice Pearl Necklace, it would be a Christmas
your wife would never forget.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2003 9:03 pm
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On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 20:03:46 GMT, Chris Buckley <cnbuckley.RemoveThis@earthlink.net>
wrote:
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>Every woman will love a high quality Vibrator, Hitachi makes the best.
>You could include a couple of Butt Plugs and Dildos for Stocking
>Stuffers. My Wife's favorite was a device called "The Anal Intruder",
>it was kind of a battery powered, index finger looking thingie. Drugs
>make a great gift as well, any woman would love to receive an eight-ball
>of her favorite recreational drug. If you were to include all of the
>above and top it off with a nice Pearl Necklace, it would be a Christmas
>your wife would never forget.
>Happy Holidays!!!!!
It's always good to solicit input from as wide a range of perspectives as
possible. This is maximum wide. Thanks.
Mike
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2003 10:46 pm
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Mike W. <outofthe.TakeThisOut@emailbiz.com> wrote:
>The Perfect Gift for those most important to me. This effort
>has increased each year... The definition of "perfect gift" has become
>more exactly defined... more.. challenging to meet, over time. I now catch
>myself seeking the "home run gift"
Buy an old suit of armor with a WWI tin-hat.
Carry a spear or a long pointy stick
Ride a donkey (or an XR)
Buy a windmill
Tilt-a-way
DonFrijoles
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2003 11:04 pm
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"Mike W." <outofthe RemoveThis @emailbiz.com> wrote in message
news:2ghutv4tt7od8chogtdemqg54pimusv3cj@4ax.com...
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> Being smack in the middle of holidays and this being a daily question, I'm
> seeking to broaden my understanding about the options available when
> selecting gifts for family and friends. Starting when I was in high school
<snip>
Mike, you're completely missing the point of the holiday season. It's
about me. You should be asking yourself, "What would FCS like
this year".
-Jeffrey Deeney- ©2003 DoD#0498 NCTR UTMA BRC COHVCO AMA
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