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Cab wrote:
> fluffycat wrote:
>
>> - advice on registering a business (sole trader or 2 people, whether
>> it's necessary at all, what type to register)
>
> When you find out, can you let me know?

*sigh*

i thought it was my ineptitude and franglais making the information,
even if i can find it, completely incomprehensible. if you have the same
problem, living there and with an interpreter...

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fluffycat wrote:
> Cab wrote:
>> fluffycat wrote:
>>
>>> - advice on registering a business (sole trader or 2 people, whether
>>> it's necessary at all, what type to register)
>>
>> When you find out, can you let me know?
>
> *sigh*
>
> i thought it was my ineptitude and franglais making the information,
> even if i can find it, completely incomprehensible. if you have the
> same problem, living there and with an interpreter...

http://www.frenchentree.com/france-employment-work-jobs/DisplayArticle...p?ID=20
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platypus wrote:
>
> http://www.frenchentree.com/france-employment-work-jobs/DisplayArticle...p?ID=20

this was the site which really upset me. however, it doesn't exactly
match with the <French equivalent of Chamber of Commerce>'s site, so i'm
hoping it's not as bad as that now!

the two businesses i'd be doing are music and running activity holidays.
the first is Profession libérale and the second is Commercant. if i
make sure there's music in all the activity holidays (worked out how to
include it in the cycling tours already!) could i get away with only
registering as musician...? the alternative is to register only for the
holiday business which would lose me all the tax/insurance perks of
being a muso. or i could register as a full-time muso and rent out rooms
to musos and bikers and cyclists (no registration needed if <5 rooms).

argh.

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fluffycat wrote:

> Cab wrote:
> > fluffycat wrote:
> >
> > > - advice on registering a business (sole trader or 2 people,
> > > whether it's necessary at all, what type to register)
> >
> > When you find out, can you let me know?
>
> sigh
>
> i thought it was my ineptitude and franglais making the information,
> even if i can find it, completely incomprehensible. if you have the
> same problem, living there and with an interpreter...

Heh. It's hardly that. It's more of a case that I'm a lazy bugger and
having been meaning to get a round tuit.

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fluffycat wrote:

> dog wrote:
> > fluffycat wrote:
> >> - advice on best way to get pounds into euros and to the notaire
> >
> > ask the notaire for their rib. it will have an iban code on it.
> > call or go to your bank's forex department and request a swift
> > transfer. quote the iban. pay 21 pounds. job done.
>
> nice and simple, but doesn't it get you the worst possible exchange
> rate? on 180,000 euros a few points makes a lot of pounds or
> otherwise, and the current exchange rate would leave me too broke to
> buy food afterwards
>
> i've opened an account with Travelex (the company that does furrin
> munny for HSBC etc) in the hope that it will be better.

I tell you what. Send it to me via Western Union. I'll look after it.

If you find a better way of transferring money where you're not screwed
by the banks, let me know.

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fluffycat wrote:
> >> - advice on best way to get pounds into euros and to the notaire
> >
> > ask the notaire for their rib. it will have an iban code on it. call or
> > go to your bank's forex department and request a swift transfer. quote
> > the iban. pay 21 pounds. job done.
>
> nice and simple, but doesn't it get you the worst possible exchange
> rate?

it gets you whatever your bank's exchange rate is on the day you set up the
transfer. the "worst possible exchange rate" i can imagine is if you tried
a cash transaction at one of those bureaux de change on leicester square.
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In message <fp42ag$m9d$1@media-center.localdomain>, fluffycat
<fluffycat RemoveThis @ukrm.co.uk> writes
>dog wrote:
>> fluffycat wrote:
>>> - advice on best way to get pounds into euros and to the notaire
>> ask the notaire for their rib. it will have an iban code on it. call
>>or
>> go to your bank's forex department and request a swift transfer. quote
>> the iban. pay 21 pounds. job done.
>
>nice and simple, but doesn't it get you the worst possible exchange
>rate? on 180,000 euros a few points makes a lot of pounds or otherwise,
>and the current exchange rate would leave me too broke to buy food
>afterwards
>
Alliance & Leicester will send money abroad for £5 if it's over 12,000
(over a year)

Dunno what their exchange rate is, but it might be worth checking out


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Cab wrote:
> Colin Irvine wrote:
>
>>> Not for long! I'm picking up my new bike next Saturday. If I get
>>> time to sort out the insurance, that is.
>>
>> Hurrah! Joining the TOG tour?
>
> Of course. I'd have been there at any rate. Even if I hadn't found a
> bike, I'd have been in the cage.

<gloom>

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In communiqué <fp42e9$m9d$2@media-center.localdomain>, fluffycat
<fluffycat.DeleteThis@ukrm.co.uk> cast forth these pearls of wisdom
>Cab wrote:
>> fluffycat wrote:
>>
>>> - advice on registering a business (sole trader or 2 people, whether
>>> it's necessary at all, what type to register)
>> When you find out, can you let me know?
>
>*sigh*
>
>i thought it was my ineptitude and franglais making the information,
>even if i can find it, completely incomprehensible. if you have the
>same problem, living there and with an interpreter...
>

We know a couple of people in the Limousin that have set up small
businesses. They reckon it is a must to 'register'. Without the
appropriate 'number' many people will not employ you if you are offering
some kind of craftsmen or building service. Otherwise you may end up
trying to rely on the ex-pat 'black market'.

I may be able to put you in touch. One does landscape gardening/general
garden work the other does building work (except that might stop now he
has leased one of the local hotels).

As to getting the money to the notaire, I thought about the exchange
rate stuff and using something to guard against exchange rate
fluctuation. In the end I decided to take a punt and kept it on deposit
earning interest until the last minute and then just did a 'Swift'
transfer as recommended by dog.

I will probably be going across in late May or early June. Possibly with
a bike trailer, which might have space for one machine. Though you won't
exactly be neighbours as far away as Bordeaux.

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On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 10:11:25 -0000, "Scraggy"
<scraggy RemoveThis @abuseisgoodforyou.org.be> wrote:

>Cab wrote:
>> Colin Irvine wrote:
>>
>>>> Not for long! I'm picking up my new bike next Saturday. If I get
>>>> time to sort out the insurance, that is.
>>>
>>> Hurrah! Joining the TOG tour?
>>
>> Of course. I'd have been there at any rate. Even if I hadn't found a
>> bike, I'd have been in the cage.
>
><gloom>

What's to be gloomy about?
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On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 12:51:50 +0000, Champ <neal.DeleteThis@champ.org.uk> wrote:

>On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 10:11:25 -0000, "Scraggy" wrote:
>>Cab wrote:

>>> Of course. I'd have been there at any rate. Even if I hadn't found a
>>> bike, I'd have been in the cage.
>>
>><gloom>
>
>What's to be gloomy about?

That corner of the field. It's always a bit on the damp side,
especially this time of year when the sun doesn't come out very often.

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Pete Fisher wrote:
> Without the appropriate 'number' many people will not employ you if you
> are offering some kind of craftsmen or building service.

i can't see me as craftsman or builder O_O

> I may be able to put you in touch.

yes please!

> As to getting the money to the notaire, I thought about the exchange
> rate stuff and using something to guard against exchange rate
> fluctuation.

Travelex person offered the fix-the-rate-now service, but said it wasn't
a good idea given that the pound is at a record low against the euro,
and the euro is expected to sink sometime this year. i just hope it's
soon. i'll leave transfer as late as possible.

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In communiqué <fp7646$os8$1@media-center.localdomain>, fluffycat
<fluffycat.TakeThisOut@ukrm.co.uk> cast forth these pearls of wisdom
>Pete Fisher wrote:
>> Without the appropriate 'number' many people will not employ you if
>>you are offering some kind of craftsmen or building service.
>
>i can't see me as craftsman or builder O_O
>

OK, the same taxation regime applies for all small businesses AFAIK. For
hourly rate type building or maintenance work, certainly, everyone works
on the 'devis' system. You sign the devis to agree the estimate. The
devis shows the business registration 'number'. Blowed if I can remember
the official term for it. SWMBO probably will.


>> I may be able to put you in touch.
>
>yes please!
>

I think SWMBO has a phone number for the couple most likely to be able
to help (having registered recently). Not on email AFAIK. Does your UKRM
email address work?

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