Final Reminder: 4th Unaugural - May 6

In aus.motorcycles on Fri, 07 Apr 2006 02:33:10 GMT
Knobdoodle <knobdoodle.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Had I turned around after just 10km I would've told you it was awkward,
> slow and uncomfortable.

I've always thought Guzzi should have a marketing slogan along the
lines of "hate it for the first hundred miles, love it for the next
hundred thousand".

I suspect Beemers are the same.


Zebee
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Tim Moran <tim-usenet DeleteThis @evilbastard.org> wrote:

> I've been ignoring the R65's, mainly as I'm not sure how one would go
> hauling my bulk about.

Not much different to the tens of thousands of km I've done with pillions on mine.

> It would be putting a pretty sizeable strain on it.

Pffft, it's an airhead. You might need a final drive spline in another 10 years.

Gary
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Zebee Johnstone <zebeej.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> In aus.motorcycles on Fri, 07 Apr 2006 02:33:10 GMT
> Knobdoodle <knobdoodle.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Had I turned around after just 10km I would've told you it was awkward,
>> slow and uncomfortable.

> I've always thought Guzzi should have a marketing slogan along the
> lines of "hate it for the first hundred miles, love it for the next
> hundred thousand".

> I suspect Beemers are the same.

The one-time North American importer Butler & Smith used to have an advertising slogan: "Ride
one around the block and you'll wonder why anyone would want one. Ride one all day and you'll
wonder why anyone would want anything else."

Gary (living in the '70s)
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Dave Milligan wrote:
>
> I've got a mate in Gunning (might be at the Un Augural) who bought his
> R90S brand spankers and it's now got over 550,000kms on the clock and
> apart from regular oil changes, fresh brake pads & tyres he hasn't
> spent a penny on it. The heads are still where they were when it came
> out of the factory.

Mea maxima culpa, when I said "higher maintenance" I didn't mean "higher
maintenance cost" and should have said "maintenance more often". He's
done an awful lot of tappet adjustments in that time.

I'd be amazed if the pushrod tube seals have lasted 550,000, or the
alternator brushes for that matter.

-----sharks
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Zebee Johnstone <zebeej RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:

> I think it has more than the CX in both handling and power. Although
> it handles similarly, they both take a bit of getting used to.
> Probably get more out of an XJ900 power wise, no idea about handling.

According to the manuals, my RS makes 70hp (a bit more than a 90S), my XJ made 90. I haven't
spent much time on 90Ss, but I suspect they have the edge; I found my XJ a hassle with the
extra weight, much of it between my lower legs, and it was pretty long, and the suspension
wasn't quite a match for the rest of the bike... but good ground clearance though

> When the GT gets back after Easter, you can try that too.

Yeah, Tim! I should have my R65 back after Easter, and I could be passing through; you can
try that too if you want a better idea.

Gary
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sharkey wrote:

> Dave Milligan wrote:
>
>>
>> I've got a mate in Gunning (might be at the Un Augural) who bought his
>> R90S brand spankers and it's now got over 550,000kms on the clock and
>> apart from regular oil changes, fresh brake pads & tyres he hasn't
>> spent a penny on it. The heads are still where they were when it came
>> out of the factory.
>
>
> Mea maxima culpa, when I said "higher maintenance" I didn't mean "higher
> maintenance cost" and should have said "maintenance more often". He's
> done an awful lot of tappet adjustments in that time.
>
> I'd be amazed if the pushrod tube seals have lasted 550,000,

I understand that as long as they are not disturbed, they can last for ages.

> or the alternator brushes for that matter.
I do hope you don't find it necessary to take the heads off to change
the alternator brushes.

I imagine there would be a few bits that have gone to god in that time,
but not necessarily requiring the heads to come off.

All the same, I'd be getting a bit nervous about the valves by now.

Moike

(but then again, I think I'll always be nervous about the valves!)
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Moike wrote:
> sharkey wrote:

>> I'd be amazed if the pushrod tube seals have lasted 550,000,

> I understand that as long as they are not disturbed, they can last
> for ages.

> (but then again, I think I'll always be nervous about the valves!)

You think they are 'disturbed' too? Send it to a BMW phychiatrist.

Theo
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On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 06:09:15 GMT, sharkey <sharkey DeleteThis @zoic.org> wrote:


>Mea maxima culpa, when I said "higher maintenance" I didn't mean "higher
>maintenance cost" and should have said "maintenance more often". He's
>done an awful lot of tappet adjustments in that time.
>
>I'd be amazed if the pushrod tube seals have lasted 550,000, or the
>alternator brushes for that matter.

Dunno, I'll ask him.

He loves the bloody thing and obviously has been a few places on it.

Also has an R80RT, and R80ST an R1100RT and his wife has an F650GS.

yet he hates BMW with a passion.

Kind regards
Dave Milligan
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Dave Milligan wrote:
>
> He loves the bloody thing and obviously has been a few places on it.
> Also has an R80RT, and R80ST an R1100RT and his wife has an F650GS.
> yet he hates BMW with a passion.

More things are disturbed around here than just pushrod seals ...

-----sharks
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Moike <bmwmoike RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> sharkey wrote:

>> Dave Milligan wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I've got a mate in Gunning (might be at the Un Augural) who bought his
>>> R90S brand spankers and it's now got over 550,000kms on the clock and
>>> apart from regular oil changes, fresh brake pads & tyres he hasn't
>>> spent a penny on it. The heads are still where they were when it came
>>> out of the factory.
>>
>>
>> Mea maxima culpa, when I said "higher maintenance" I didn't mean "higher
>> maintenance cost" and should have said "maintenance more often". He's
>> done an awful lot of tappet adjustments in that time.
>>
>> I'd be amazed if the pushrod tube seals have lasted 550,000,

> I understand that as long as they are not disturbed, they can last for ages.

Well, they *can*, but they rarely do...

> (but then again, I think I'll always be nervous about the valves!)

You should talk to my mechanic! He's been warning me for at least 5 years, "these things
usually drop a valve around 110,000km". Meanwhile, the bike has done at least 200,000km, and
AFAIK the heads have never been off. Has two leaking pushrod seals though; both on the same
side. YMMV.

Gary (report next week)
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On 2006-04-07, Theo Bekkers <tbekkers RemoveThis @bekkers.com.au> wrote:
> Jodie wrote:
>> Yes sorry GS
>> They said it was going to be the 20th but changed it to the 6th
>> jodz
>> "G-S" <geoff RemoveThis @castbus.com.au> wrote
>
>>> Oh... is that the same weekend
>
>>> G-S (now piking).
>
> You guys should arrange a meeting.
>
> Theo
>
>

They did that once before, and the result is why he can't come to the
rally
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"Gary Woodman" <not.RemoveThis@today.thanks.net> wrote in message
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> Zebee Johnstone <zebeej.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>> In aus.motorcycles on Fri, 07 Apr 2006 02:33:10 GMT
>> Knobdoodle <knobdoodle.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> Had I turned around after just 10km I would've told you it was awkward,
>>> slow and uncomfortable.
>
>> I've always thought Guzzi should have a marketing slogan along the
>> lines of "hate it for the first hundred miles, love it for the next
>> hundred thousand".
>
>> I suspect Beemers are the same.
>
> The one-time North American importer Butler & Smith used to have an
> advertising slogan: "Ride
> one around the block and you'll wonder why anyone would want one. Ride one
> all day and you'll
> wonder why anyone would want anything else."
>
> Gary (living in the '70s)

Reminds me of when I traded my quite low mileage GSX1100EFE for my first
BMW, an ex police K100RT (in an effort to slow down and retain my licence
for the next 12 months). Riding it down Church St all I could think was
"what have I done?" It felt like a big marshmallow basically.

Al
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"Dave Milligan" <dave.TakeThisOut@SPAMTRAPgetrouted.com.au> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 06:09:15 GMT, sharkey <sharkey.TakeThisOut@zoic.org> wrote:
>
>
>>Mea maxima culpa, when I said "higher maintenance" I didn't mean "higher
>>maintenance cost" and should have said "maintenance more often". He's
>>done an awful lot of tappet adjustments in that time.
>>
>>I'd be amazed if the pushrod tube seals have lasted 550,000, or the
>>alternator brushes for that matter.
>
> Dunno, I'll ask him.
>
> He loves the bloody thing and obviously has been a few places on it.
>
> Also has an R80RT, and R80ST an R1100RT and his wife has an F650GS.
>
> yet he hates BMW with a passion.
>
This isn't Frank is it?
--
Clem
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