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Lozzo

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2003 8:03 pm
Post subject: FZ400 fork spring woes and advice needed (longish)
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I've been working on my housemate Elly's FZ400 these past few days,
preparing the bike for its MOT and subsequent daily useage. One of the
jobs that needed doing for the MOT was to ensure the forks didn't bottom
out, as they had been previously. I've fitted new seals and the correct
grade and quantity of oil, and had come to the conclusion that the
springs were bordering on tired. When sitting still the bike exhibited an
amazing amount of sag, with the fork stanchions sitting way down the
sliders

Now back in the old days, when I was a tightfisted urchin living on
boiled string and fried dandelions, I used to pop a couple or three
2pence pieces on top of each fork spring to give them a bit of assistance
and upping the preload. So I went down this route with the FZ, only to
find that three 2ps on each spring caused the front to be almost solid.
So I decided to drop the amount down to two 2ps.

I started with the left fork and whipped the top cap off and the bike sat
pefectly upright and with the right fork leg fully extended still. All
good for when I come to stick the top-cap back on I thought. I removed
one coin and put the top-cap back on. Lovely.

Turned my attention to the right fork leg and did the same, off came the
top-cap, and the bottom yoke nearly clouts the mudguard as it drops. WTF?

What I can't understand is how just 1.5mm of spacer can make that much
difference to the way the front springs act. To put the top-caps on both
forks took roughly the same amount of downward pressure and there was
appx the same amount of spring sitting above the fork top when the cap
was off each side. So I know that the damper units in each fork leg are
seated at the bottom OK.

I've since fitted 2 coins into each side and the front end seems to sit
alot better with a minimum of sag and the forks don't bottom out any
more. However, I'm still not at all sure I've done a proper job of it and
can't ride it yet to be able to tell. That left fork not supporting the
bike on it's own has thrown me. The right one coped very well doing the
same job. Could I have just got the damper unit unseated on the right leg
causing the preload to be way too hard the first time round, and if so,
why did the top cap go on so easily that time? Anyone got any clues?


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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 9:08 am
Post subject: Re: FZ400 fork spring woes and advice needed (longish) [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Lozzo wrote:

 > I've been working on my housemate Elly's FZ400 these past few days,
 > preparing the bike for its MOT and subsequent daily useage. One of the
 > jobs that needed doing for the MOT was to ensure the forks didn't bottom
 > out, as they had been previously. I've fitted new seals and the correct
 > grade and quantity of oil, and had come to the conclusion that the
 > springs were bordering on tired. When sitting still the bike exhibited an
 > amazing amount of sag, with the fork stanchions sitting way down the
 > sliders

<snip lots of tale of woe>

Did you ever sort this?



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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 2:21 pm
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Sean fascinated us all by saying...
 > Lozzo wrote:
 >
  > > I've been working on my housemate Elly's FZ400 these past few days,
  > > preparing the bike for its MOT and subsequent daily useage. One of the
  > > jobs that needed doing for the MOT was to ensure the forks didn't bottom
  > > out, as they had been previously. I've fitted new seals and the correct
  > > grade and quantity of oil, and had come to the conclusion that the
  > > springs were bordering on tired. When sitting still the bike exhibited an
  > > amazing amount of sag, with the fork stanchions sitting way down the
  > > sliders
 >
 > <snip lots of tale of woe>
 >
 > Did you ever sort this?

Yes, it turned out to be the air pressure that I'd introduced to the
forks that was holding the right one at full extension. I removed the
left top-cap and the right stayed extended. But when I had replaced the
cap I omitted the air pressure that it had previously had. I removed the
right top-cap and the forks sunk because the left was running normal
pressure.

It's all sorted now, nice to know the forks hold air pressure tbh.


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BotToS#8, GP#2, SBS#10, SH#3, DFV#14.
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