FZ1 Yamaha 2006 naked oppinions ?

On May 20, 8:41 am, "TroytheTroll" <f4_... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
> "burazzz" <b... RemoveThis @buraz.hr> wrote in message
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> news:f2p7gu$sdu$1@ss408.t-com.hr...
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> > Anyone has oppinion on this bike .....
> > I have V-Max 95 and im thinking to change it for 2006 FZ1 ....
>
> > Thanks !
>
> I really like the 06-07 FZ1's compared to the last generation models. Except
> for that silly exhaust they cleaned up the looks quite a bit, I sat on one,
> decent sporty seating position, got a better fork on the front, doesn't look
> too heavy.
>
> I'd get one.

Bahh, typical Jap cost cutting BS:

"Also new for '06 is the front and rear Kayaba suspension with 5.1
inches of travel, slightly less on both ends than previous. It's led
by a 43mm inverted fork, which unconventionally has the rebound and
compression damping circuits relegated to just one leg for each; fork
spring tension is adjustable on both legs."
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On May 20, 10:08 am, timeOday <timeOday-UNS... RemoveThis @theknack.net> wrote:
> saddlebag wrote:
> > "Also new for '06 is the front and rear Kayaba suspension with 5.1
> > inches of travel, slightly less on both ends than previous. It's led
> > by a 43mm inverted fork, which unconventionally has the rebound and
> > compression damping circuits relegated to just one leg for each; fork
> > spring tension is adjustable on both legs."
>
> Why do you dismiss that idea out of hand?
> I'm curious how well it works.

Theoretically, if the front end were perfectly rigid it would work.
In practice, I've never read a raving review about such systems. In
my recent experience with a one legged 1800 Goldwing, the front end
was absolute spagetti.

> It only has to beat any other design *the same price or less.*

Let me know when Penski, Ohlins et al move on to this high tech design
practice...
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On May 20, 10:33 am, "TroytheTroll" <f4_... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> I'd get one.
>
> > Bahh, typical Jap cost cutting BS:
>
> > "Also new for '06 is the front and rear Kayaba suspension with 5.1
> > inches of travel, slightly less on both ends than previous. It's led
> > by a 43mm inverted fork, which unconventionally has the rebound and
> > compression damping circuits relegated to just one leg for each; fork
> > spring tension is adjustable on both legs."
>
> Nobody ever said you have taste.

I taste just fine even if I don't smell so good.
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On May 20, 6:22 am, "burazzz" <b....TakeThisOut@buraz.hr> wrote:
> Anyone has oppinion on this bike .....
> I have V-Max 95 and im thinking to change it for 2006 FZ1 ....
>
> Thanks !

http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/Article_Page.aspx?ArticleID=3132
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saddlebag wrote:

> "Also new for '06 is the front and rear Kayaba suspension with 5.1
> inches of travel, slightly less on both ends than previous. It's led
> by a 43mm inverted fork, which unconventionally has the rebound and
> compression damping circuits relegated to just one leg for each; fork
> spring tension is adjustable on both legs."

Why do you dismiss that idea out of hand? I'm curious how well it
works. It only has to beat any other design *the same price or less.*
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>> I'd get one.
>
> Bahh, typical Jap cost cutting BS:
>
> "Also new for '06 is the front and rear Kayaba suspension with 5.1
> inches of travel, slightly less on both ends than previous. It's led
> by a 43mm inverted fork, which unconventionally has the rebound and
> compression damping circuits relegated to just one leg for each; fork
> spring tension is adjustable on both legs."
>

Nobody ever said you have taste.
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On May 20, 6:03 pm, Steve Mackay <steve_mac... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
> saddlebag wrote:
> > On May 20, 10:08 am, timeOday <timeOday-UNS... RemoveThis @theknack.net> wrote:
> >> saddlebag wrote:
> >>> "Also new for '06 is the front and rear Kayaba suspension with 5.1
> >>> inches of travel, slightly less on both ends than previous. It's led
> >>> by a 43mm inverted fork, which unconventionally has the rebound and
> >>> compression damping circuits relegated to just one leg for each; fork
> >>> spring tension is adjustable on both legs."
> >> Why do you dismiss that idea out of hand?
> >> I'm curious how well it works.
>
> > Theoretically, if the front end were perfectly rigid it would work.
> > In practice, I've never read a raving review about such systems. In
> > my recent experience with a one legged 1800 Goldwing, the front end
> > was absolute spagetti.
>
> >> It only has to beat any other design *the same price or less.*
>
> > Let me know when Penski, Ohlins et al move on to this high tech design
> > practice...
>
> Umm, Saddle, did the Buell feel like Spaghetti?

I didn't push it very hard, but no. Do they do that too?
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saddlebag wrote:
> On May 20, 10:08 am, timeOday <timeOday-UNS....DeleteThis@theknack.net> wrote:
>> saddlebag wrote:
>>> "Also new for '06 is the front and rear Kayaba suspension with 5.1
>>> inches of travel, slightly less on both ends than previous. It's led
>>> by a 43mm inverted fork, which unconventionally has the rebound and
>>> compression damping circuits relegated to just one leg for each; fork
>>> spring tension is adjustable on both legs."
>> Why do you dismiss that idea out of hand?
>> I'm curious how well it works.
>
> Theoretically, if the front end were perfectly rigid it would work.
> In practice, I've never read a raving review about such systems. In
> my recent experience with a one legged 1800 Goldwing, the front end
> was absolute spagetti.
>
>> It only has to beat any other design *the same price or less.*
>
> Let me know when Penski, Ohlins et al move on to this high tech design
> practice...
>
Umm, Saddle, did the Buell feel like Spaghetti?
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>> I found a Buell owner's manual. You are correct, only 1 compression
>> adjuster on the right and two rebound and preload adjusters on the
>> top. This may require an additional test ride!
>>
> Well, look at it this way... Most, if not all the top XB racers are
> running the stock showa forks. What does that tell you?

That if they ever want to run with the big boys they need to get better
suspensions?
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Tweak wrote:
> In article <4652d728$0$19386$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
> steve_mackay.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com says...
>
>> Well, look at it this way... Most, if not all the top XB racers are
>> running the stock showa forks. What does that tell you?
>>
> That none of the suspension tuners know anything about the Buell?

Or maybe the stock setup just works well?
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"Steve Mackay" <steve_mackay.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Tweak wrote:
>> In article <4652d728$0$19386$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
>> steve_mackay.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com says...
>>
>>> Well, look at it this way... Most, if not all the top XB racers are
>>> running the stock showa forks. What does that tell you?
>>>
>> That none of the suspension tuners know anything about the Buell?
>
> Or maybe the stock setup just works well?

Ducati vtwins are finishing top-10 in Formula Extreme, ridden by local bike
shop boys, I say get Jeremy some real suspenders, use that 100% displacement
advantage to some good use besides being a boat anchor, and stop pretending
that cherry picking the sv650's consists of "working well".
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TroytheTroll wrote:
>
> "Steve Mackay" <steve_mackay DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4652e1c6$0$8978$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>> Tweak wrote:
>>> In article <4652d728$0$19386$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
>>> steve_mackay DeleteThis @hotmail.com says...
>>>
>>>> Well, look at it this way... Most, if not all the top XB racers are
>>>> running the stock showa forks. What does that tell you?
>>>>
>>> That none of the suspension tuners know anything about the Buell?
>>
>> Or maybe the stock setup just works well?
>
> Ducati vtwins are finishing top-10 in Formula Extreme, ridden by local
> bike shop boys

That's awesome! Congrats to them.

> I say get Jeremy some real suspenders, use that 100%
> displacement advantage to some good use besides being a boat anchor, and
> stop pretending that cherry picking the sv650's consists of "working well".

The Thunderbike series is a power to weight ratio. What does
displacement have to do with it?

Since the majority of the top 10 are Buells, wouldn't you say that stock
Showa front end is doing well? The SVs don't even come close to LOOKING
like SVs any longer in the Thunderbike series. Gixxer front ends,
720CCs, etc...
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