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darsy

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 7:33 am
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Say you have a fairly tatty ZX-7R (for example), with a scrape race
fairing, dent in the tank, only one mirror, busted speedo cable. It's
largely road legal (needs a very friendly MOT station or a legal end-
can), but isn't taxed or MOTed or anything like that. It works, and
goes well for what it is, but you just don't want it any more.

What's the best disposal route:

a) tidy it up, get the dented tank fixed, the fairing sanded and
respray and source a decal kit, then get it MOTed and taxed and sell
as a road bike.

b) try and flog it entire as a track bike (obviously for less money
than a), but with no costs to get it ready to sell)

c) try and break it and sell it as spares

d) something else?

opinions gratefully received.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 7:33 am
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darsy wrote:
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> What's the best disposal route:
>
> a) tidy it up, get the dented tank fixed, the fairing sanded and
> respray and source a decal kit, then get it MOTed and taxed and sell
> as a road bike.

I would choose this route, but that's because I quite
like doing that kind of thing and have the space to
do it in and the contacts to get stuff I need sorted
for decent prices.

> b) try and flog it entire as a track bike (obviously for less money
> than a), but with no costs to get it ready to sell)

This could work but if I was looking for a trackbike
I would still want something that looked ok. To me
a trackbike is a road going bike with all the road
bits removed and some aftermarket fairing fitted rather
than something that has been down the road a few times
so looks a mess.

> c) try and break it and sell it as spares

Is a good idea if you have the know-how to break it
into bits that people want, the space and tools to
do it as well as the patience to part things out over
a long period of time. You may end up with quite a lot
left over that nobody wants anyway.

> d) something else?

Give it to me and I'll sort it for you. You can then
pay me a (negotiable) %age of the sale price.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 7:33 am
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ogden wrote:
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> I reckon the margin from option a, the sale price from option b, and the
> final take from option c, will all amount to about the same, but only
> one requires no effort.

Good observation, that.

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 7:33 am
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darsy wrote:
> antonye wrote:
>
> > Give it to me and I'll sort it for you. You can then
> > pay me a (negotiable) %age of the sale price.
>
> if you're on for it, this is fine for me - I'm in no particular rush
> to free up the cash, but I'd rather it was doing something other than
> just cluttering up Ken's garage. What sort of % are you talking about?

Not much to be honest, say 20% as a guide.

> It's not *that* bad to look at - everything from the tank backwards is
> fine, IYSWIM. And there's nothing really broken about the fairing -
> it's just a scuffed race fairing, supposed to be all black. The dent
> in the tank is fairly small too.

I can get the plastics and paintwork done for virtually nothing.
Turning it back into a green ZX7 with a sticker kit wouldn't be a
bad thing either. I imagine that it would need a good tidy and
some cleaning and then you'd end up with something pretty desirable
rather than just a space filler in MCN Bikemart.

I'm over at Ken's tomorrow so will take a proper look at it
and see what needs doing.

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 7:33 am
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On 26 Sep, 13:22, darsy <dar....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 26, 12:18 pm, ogden <og....TakeThisOut@pre.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> hmm. 1600 quid is around what I have expected it to sell for as a).
>
The market being what it is, and with winter coming on, I think you'd
be lucky, and it will definitely cost a lot of money.

As (b) I could see it making a grand.

As a breaker, it might run to as much as two grand, depending on the
quality of the bits.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 7:33 am
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On 26 Sep, 13:30, darsy <sillygoo....DeleteThis@sticky.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > This one. No question. Involves a bit of work, mind. I reckon to
> > dispose of an entire bike, right down to the last washer, in three
> > weeks.
>
> [snip]
>
> whilst this sounds fine in theory, I have neither the free time, the
> expertise, and - most importantly - the inclination to get this done
> in a reasonable time frame.
>
> I've no idea how you take an engine out of a bike, for example.
>

Well, fairy nuff. This way would get you the most money, though, for
sure. And as Beav says, it's not hard - you just need someone with you
to hold your hand, as it were. But if time is a constraint....

I see from your other post, now, that you can get the cosmetics sorted
for next to nowt. That changes things slightly.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 7:33 am
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On 26 Sep, 13:35, antonye <anto....TakeThisOut@ukrm.net> wrote:
> darsy wrote:
> > antonye wrote:
>

> Turning it back into a green ZX7 with a sticker kit wouldn't be a
> bad thing either.

If you do this, then you must send the logbook away to have the change
of colour recorded, before you sell it. Apart from the legal
requirement, it'll set alarm bells ringing with any clued-up buyer who
checks the V5 properly.

Most don't, of course. And if you tell 'em it's been resprayed anyway,
then you can make the change when you sign over the V5.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 7:33 am
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On 26 Sep, 15:09, darsy <sillygoo....RemoveThis@sticky.co.uk> wrote:
> On Sep 26, 2:07 pm, ogden <og....RemoveThis@pre.org> wrote:
>
> > darsy wrote:
>
> > > On Sep 26, 12:59 pm, ogden <og....RemoveThis@pre.org> wrote:
> > > > Want a stock exhaust system too, mister?
>
> > > how much?
>
> > Dunno, make me a sensible offer.
>
> dunno. 50 quid?
>

I bid 60.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 7:33 am
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On 26 Sep, 15:21, ogden <og... DeleteThis @pre.org> wrote:
> TOG@toil, chateau.mur... DeleteThis @btinternet.com, chateau.mur... DeleteThis @btinternet.com
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > > > > > Want a stock exhaust system too, mister?
>
> > > > > how much?
>
> > > > Dunno, make me a sensible offer.
>
> > > dunno. 50 quid?
>
> > I bid 60.
>
> Don't you start, Murray.
>
<VBG>
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 7:33 am
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TOG wrote:
> If you do this, then you must send the logbook away to have the change
> of colour recorded, before you sell it.

Well yes, it wouldn't be the first time for me either.
Last time was also a Kwak from Red/Black to Green!

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 7:33 am
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darsy wrote:
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> it never was a green bike, it's always been the silver black model -
> except at the moment the fairing sides are also black, instead of the
> silver they ought to be.

I was just thinking off the top of my head. If you're going
to get it resprayed, especially as it's track fairing, why
not get it done in something people like/want?

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 7:33 am
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darsy wrote:
>
> that's a thought - it has a Hindle full stainless system on it, but I
> suppose some sort of legal can could be bodged on. Nothing else about
> it should be an MOT failure. It would need a speed cable too, mind.

If it's just a noise issue then I have dB killers here that
can be rammed in the end for an MOT, although my 748 with
the 50mm race Termigs manages to get through ok Wink

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On 26 Sep, 13:39, darsy <sillygoo....RemoveThis@sticky.co.uk> wrote:
> On Sep 26, 12:36 pm, TOG@toil,chateau.mur...@btinternet.com,
>
> <chateau.mur....RemoveThis@btinternet.com> wrote:
> > On 26 Sep, 13:22, darsy <dar....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:> On Sep 26, 12:18 pm, ogden <og....RemoveThis@pre.org> wrote:
>
> > > hmm. 1600 quid is around what I have expected it to sell for as a).
>
> > The market being what it is, and with winter coming on, I think you'd
> > be lucky, and it will definitely cost a lot of money.
>
> I think you're overly pessimistic for once: if it were sorted, it'd be
> the same as this, but with significantly lower mileage:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1999-KAWASAKI-ZX-7R-NINJA-in-SILVER-BLACK-ZX7R_...
>
> then again, there's less choice up in porridgeland.
>
OK, if you can get it to this standard, then yes. But it'll still cost
a lot to do it (that is an exceptionally nice one), which will eat
away at your return. The tank fix and the fairing repair and the
respray/decals could rush you up to £400 alone. Less, if you know a
good friendly body shop/sprayer, mind. Paging Beav?
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 7:34 am
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darsy wrote:
>
> Say you have a fairly tatty ZX-7R (for example), with a scrape race
> fairing, dent in the tank, only one mirror, busted speedo cable. It's
> largely road legal (needs a very friendly MOT station or a legal end-
> can), but isn't taxed or MOTed or anything like that. It works, and
> goes well for what it is, but you just don't want it any more.
>
> What's the best disposal route:
>
> a) tidy it up, get the dented tank fixed, the fairing sanded and
> respray and source a decal kit, then get it MOTed and taxed and sell
> as a road bike.
>
> b) try and flog it entire as a track bike (obviously for less money
> than a), but with no costs to get it ready to sell)
>
> c) try and break it and sell it as spares

Option c on a truly knackered 7R with no substantial bodywork fetched
about 1600 quid less fees and P&P expenses (kept to a minimum by
recycling old boxes, etc.) and I still have the exhaust and tank in the
garage.

I reckon the margin from option a, the sale price from option b, and the
final take from option c, will all amount to about the same, but only
one requires no effort.

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(Msg. 15) Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 7:34 am
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ogden wrote:
> darsy wrote:

>> c) try and break it and sell it as spares
>
> Option c on a truly knackered 7R with no substantial bodywork fetched
> about 1600 quid less fees and P&P expenses (kept to a minimum by
> recycling old boxes, etc.) and I still have the exhaust and tank in
> the garage.
>
> I reckon the margin from option a, the sale price from option b, and
> the final take from option c, will all amount to about the same, but
> only one requires no effort.

Can you imagine Darsy going to the trouble of breaking it and running lots
of ebay auctions?

A single auction for the bike as it stands seems the sensible option.

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