FOAK: Punctures and repairs

Lozzo wibbled:

> Ballistic says...
> > So I seem to have developed magnetic tyres because they are picking
> > up every sodding nail and screw in West London. I've had 2 new back
> > tyres in 3 weeks and I'm getting sick of being stranded.
> >
> > So, what's the general wisdom regarding carrying a repair kit?
> > Which type; the plug type or a can of sealing stuff?
> >
> > I never feel confident on a tyre with a plug and always want to
> > just get it home or to a tyre fitter.
>
> Plug them. I've done thousands of miles on properly plugged tyres
> with no problems at all. In fact, I've never heard of a
> professionally plugged tyre failing prematurely, but have heard about
> badly executed roadside repairs failing.
>
> Temporary plugs are good enough until you can get the bike to someone
> who can do a proper 'tyre off' job.

Wot 'e said. Never had a problem with a professionally plugged tyre.

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In communiqué <MPG.2164c1e2949391dc9896e3 RemoveThis @news.motzarella.org>, Lozzo
<lozzo RemoveThis @lozzo.org.uk> cast forth these pearls of wisdom
>Ballistic says...
>> So I seem to have developed magnetic tyres because they are picking up
>> every sodding nail and screw in West London. I've had 2 new back tyres
>> in 3 weeks and I'm getting sick of being stranded.
>>
>> So, what's the general wisdom regarding carrying a repair kit? Which
>> type; the plug type or a can of sealing stuff?
>>
>> I never feel confident on a tyre with a plug and always want to just
>> get it home or to a tyre fitter.
>
>Plug them. I've done thousands of miles on properly plugged tyres with
>no problems at all. In fact, I've never heard of a professionally
>plugged tyre failing prematurely, but have heard about badly executed
>roadside repairs failing.
>
>Temporary plugs are good enough until you can get the bike to someone
>who can do a proper 'tyre off' job.
>

Seconded. I have a little kit with a couple of sparklets type gas
canisters a podger [1] type thing and plugs. It works perfectly, because
since I have carried it round with me I have never had a puncture.

So TBF I can't vouch for their efficacy, I have however, had very
unsatisfactory results in the past from the 'Finilec' type stuff.

[1] For Champ's benefit, not really a 'podger' at all as it has a
little hook/slot in the end, but it's such a wonderful word. Although
'bodkin' would be even better in this case. I see you can even get a
'ratchet podger' these days.
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Ballistic wrote:
> So I seem to have developed magnetic tyres because they are picking up
> every sodding nail and screw in West London. I've had 2 new back tyres
> in 3 weeks and I'm getting sick of being stranded.
>
> So, what's the general wisdom regarding carrying a repair kit? Which
> type; the plug type or a can of sealing stuff?
>
> I never feel confident on a tyre with a plug and always want to just
> get it home or to a tyre fitter.
>

I never ha the confidence to use my repair kit, but happily ran an
Ultrasealed rear tyre on the Triple for several thousand miles
(basically from a couple of hundred miles > totally shagged)

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In article <MPG.2164c1e2949391dc9896e3.TakeThisOut@news.motzarella.org>, Lozzo
says...
> Ballistic says...
> > So I seem to have developed magnetic tyres because they are picking up
> > every sodding nail and screw in West London. I've had 2 new back tyres
> > in 3 weeks and I'm getting sick of being stranded.
> >
> > So, what's the general wisdom regarding carrying a repair kit? Which
> > type; the plug type or a can of sealing stuff?
> >
> > I never feel confident on a tyre with a plug and always want to just
> > get it home or to a tyre fitter.
>
> Plug them. I've done thousands of miles on properly plugged tyres with
> no problems at all. In fact, I've never heard of a professionally
> plugged tyre failing prematurely, but have heard about badly executed
> roadside repairs failing.
>
> Temporary plugs are good enough until you can get the bike to someone
> who can do a proper 'tyre off' job.

I've ridden on "professionally" plugged tyres twice - ie I've had 2 9R
rears plugged.

Either a) it makes the tyre squirm a lot more under hard acceleration or
b) I'm overly sensitive.

Now we both know b) isn't a genuine option, so ...
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Bear says...

> I've ridden on "professionally" plugged tyres twice - ie I've had 2 9R
> rears plugged.
>
> Either a) it makes the tyre squirm a lot more under hard acceleration or
> b) I'm overly sensitive.
>
> Now we both know b) isn't a genuine option, so ...

You know what you were saying about Rossi getting spooked by his
tyres...that's you that is. Never noticed a difference, and can't see
how there can be one just cos a tiny tiny portion of the rubber is
different.

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"Ballistic" <basil DeleteThis @fawltytowers.co.uk> wrote in message
>
> I never feel confident on a tyre with a plug and always want to just
> get it home or to a tyre fitter.
>
I've used Ultraseal on the Blackbird and the previous 1200 Bandit and would
use it again if I had a puncture in a new tyre. I did about 1200 miles to
and around the IoM in 2006 touching 150 mph fairly regularly two up with
full luggage and never had a concern once. I had ultraseal in when I did
this http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=kX8YVi2ga0U

I wouldn't use any of the other fluids you can get and I never found that it
increased mileage as the makers say. However, it saved me hundreds in
replacement tyres over the years.

Mark
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Bear wibbled:

> In article <MPG.2164c1e2949391dc9896e3.TakeThisOut@news.motzarella.org>, Lozzo
> says...
> > Ballistic says...
> > > So I seem to have developed magnetic tyres because they are
> > > picking up every sodding nail and screw in West London. I've had
> > > 2 new back tyres in 3 weeks and I'm getting sick of being
> > > stranded.
> > >
> > > So, what's the general wisdom regarding carrying a repair kit?
> > > Which type; the plug type or a can of sealing stuff?
> > >
> > > I never feel confident on a tyre with a plug and always want to
> > > just get it home or to a tyre fitter.
> >
> > Plug them. I've done thousands of miles on properly plugged tyres
> > with no problems at all. In fact, I've never heard of a
> > professionally plugged tyre failing prematurely, but have heard
> > about badly executed roadside repairs failing.
> >
> > Temporary plugs are good enough until you can get the bike to
> > someone who can do a proper 'tyre off' job.
>
> I've ridden on "professionally" plugged tyres twice - ie I've had 2
> 9R rears plugged.
>
> Either a) it makes the tyre squirm a lot more under hard acceleration
> or b) I'm overly sensitive.
>
> Now we both know b) isn't a genuine option, so ...

bzzt!

It's all in yer 'ead

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Lozzo <lozzo RemoveThis @lozzo.org.uk> wrote:

> Temporary plugs are good enough until you can get the bike to someone
> who can do a proper 'tyre off' job.

What he said. I rode to the south of France and back on one.


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On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 07:19:04 +0100,
chateau.murray.takethisout.RemoveThis@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) wrote:

>Lozzo <lozzo.RemoveThis@lozzo.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> Temporary plugs are good enough until you can get the bike to someone
>> who can do a proper 'tyre off' job.
>
>What he said. I rode to the south of France and back on one.

I've done 1000s of miles on plugged tyres too.
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In communiqué <9npmf3988e35b42s6vdv1hjg855rspro2e.RemoveThis@4ax.com>, Champ
<news.RemoveThis@champ.org.uk> cast forth these pearls of wisdom
>On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 07:19:04 +0100,
>chateau.murray.takethisout@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) wrote:
>
>>Lozzo <lozzo.RemoveThis@lozzo.org.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Temporary plugs are good enough until you can get the bike to someone
>>> who can do a proper 'tyre off' job.
>>
>>What he said. I rode to the south of France and back on one.
>
>I've done 1000s of miles on plugged tyres too.

So have I, on professionally plugged tyres, but I think the OP was
asking more about the best 'get you home' (other than man in van)
strategy.

So should he carry a plugging kit or a sealing squirter?

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On Sep 26, 8:38 pm, Pete Fisher <Pe....RemoveThis@ps-fisher.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> >Temporary plugs are good enough until you can get the bike to someone
> >who can do a proper 'tyre off' job.
>
> Seconded. I have a little kit with a couple of sparklets type gas
> canisters a podger [1] type thing and plugs. It works perfectly, because
> since I have carried it round with me I have never had a puncture.

I used one of those after puncturing a nearly new tyre. I soon got fed
up of cautious riding and treated it as normal. When the tyre was
eventually changed 4 - 5K later I and the tyre fitter both tried to
pull out the temporary plug and couldn't shift it YMMV.

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"Ballistic" <basil.RemoveThis@fawltytowers.co.uk> wrote in message
news:Xns99B7CDB411C2Dbasil@212.23.3.119...
> So I seem to have developed magnetic tyres because they are picking up
> every sodding nail and screw in West London. I've had 2 new back tyres
> in 3 weeks and I'm getting sick of being stranded.
>
> So, what's the general wisdom regarding carrying a repair kit? Which
> type; the plug type or a can of sealing stuff?
>
> I never feel confident on a tyre with a plug and always want to just
> get it home or to a tyre fitter.

I've never had a new tyre on for more than 500 miles before they get nailed
or screwed, so I've ridden for thousands of miles with plugged tyres. Never
had a problem with them failing.


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"Pete Fisher" <Peter.TakeThisOut@ps-fisher.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:Mj00n+Hqs2+GFww4@ps-fisher.demon.co.uk...
> In communiqué <9npmf3988e35b42s6vdv1hjg855rspro2e.TakeThisOut@4ax.com>, Champ
> <news.TakeThisOut@champ.org.uk> cast forth these pearls of wisdom
>>On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 07:19:04 +0100,
>>chateau.murray.takethisout@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) wrote:
>>
>>>Lozzo <lozzo.TakeThisOut@lozzo.org.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Temporary plugs are good enough until you can get the bike to someone
>>>> who can do a proper 'tyre off' job.
>>>
>>>What he said. I rode to the south of France and back on one.
>>
>>I've done 1000s of miles on plugged tyres too.
>
> So have I, on professionally plugged tyres, but I think the OP was asking
> more about the best 'get you home' (other than man in van) strategy.

All my plugged riding has been done on tyres plugged at home (a roadside
repair with cups of tea available) and that included 5000 across Europe and
Scandinavia last year.


>
> So should he carry a plugging kit or a sealing squirter?

Both.


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