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ct.morrow

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(Msg. 196) Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:21 am
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On Feb 22, 1:16 pm, "." <Rhiann... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 22, 8:35�am, Tim <ct.mor... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I guess that's why you don't see any Ducatis at your trailer park.
>
> There is NO Ducati $tealer in this county, or in three other
> surrounding counties.
>
> I would have to ride 150 miles every time I needed some chickenshit
> little part.
>
> OTOH, my cousin's Suzuki dealership is a mile away. Who do you think
> I'm going to do business with?

I think you'll do business with whomever you please. I don't think
your local lack of a decent Ducati dealer has any bearing on whether
other people should or shouldn't consider shopping for a Ducati. And
I think your false alarm about belt driven camshafts is just that - a
false alarm. If a person is interested in shopping for a Ducati and
rides one and wants one, I think the type of cam belt drive their
engines have is VERY low on the buy/don't buy decision heirarchy of
the normal, average motorcycle shopper.

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(Msg. 197) Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:36 am
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On Feb 22, 10:21�am, "tomor...@erols.com" <ct.mor....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:

> I think you'll do business with whomever you please. � I don't think
> your local lack of a decent Ducati dealer has any bearing on whether
> other people should or shouldn't consider shopping for a Ducati.

Several riders in the Fresno area own Ducs, because there is a $tealer
$hip there, but I have *never* laid eyes on a Duc in this county. The
most exotic thing I've seen is a KTM.�

> And I think your false alarm about belt driven camshafts is just that - a
> false alarm. �If a person is interested in shopping for a Ducati and
> rides one and wants one, I think the type of cam belt drive their
> engines have is VERY low on the buy/don't buy decision heirarchy of
> the normal, average motorcycle shopper.

I think that the average motorcycle shopper is as mechanically
clueless as BryanUTroll.

As for me, I know how a Duc is built, and I think they are over-priced
for what you're getting. A Duc doesn't fit my Roman god physique
anyway, it pokes me in the rudest places.

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(Msg. 198) Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:25 am
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On Feb 22, 1:36 pm, "." <Rhiann....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:

> As for me, I know how a Duc is built, and I think they are over-priced
> for what you're getting. A Duc doesn't fit my Roman god physique
> anyway, it pokes me in the rudest places.

Different Ducatis have extremely different riding positions.

I don't think you actually have a clue as to how a modern Ducati is
built.
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(Msg. 199) Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:44 pm
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.. wrote:
> On Feb 22, 8:35�am, Tim <ct.mor... DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I guess that's why you don't see any Ducatis at your trailer park.
>
> There is NO Ducati $tealer in this county, or in three other
> surrounding counties.
>
> I would have to ride 150 miles every time I needed some chickenshit
> little part.
>
> OTOH, my cousin's Suzuki dealership is a mile away. Who do you think
> I'm going to do business with?


http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ipall.ch?domain=207.200.116.133

Shows you're in Huntington Beach, California
The closest Duc dealer is 8 miles away.
http://tinyurl.com/3yxznq
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(Msg. 200) Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:31 pm
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On Feb 22, 10:44�am, Steve Mackay <steve_mac... DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:

> Shows you're in Huntington Beach, California
> The closest Duc dealer is 8 miles away.http://tinyurl.com/3yxznq

Where's the closest Duc dealer to Mountain View, CA? That's where most
DNS serches place me.
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Andy Burnett

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(Msg. 201) Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 4:08 pm
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_Bob_Nixon_ <bilbo.TakeThisOut@nospam.com> wrote in
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> I just know Bryan, like myself, lives on a budjet, I've had two SV's
> now, 1 old style & 1 new. I don't like them as well as I did the
> Sprint but things have changed in my life since I bought the Sprint 6
> years ago, So it's back to a small twin that has a lot of bang for the
> buck (nearly ID performance to the Ducati GT1000 in Feb 08 Cycle
> world). You can call me practical but not wounded over th is thread.

Bob, I'm not sure what you don't like with the SV's, but if it's the
suspension, a guy here just rebuilt an SV after a crash and put a GSXR
front end on it. USD forks, 320mm rotors, six pot calipers. Pretty
straightforward swap I guess and sometimes you can find good deals on those
parts.

He says the difference in handling is stunning, which you'd expect.

ab
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(Msg. 202) Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:59 am
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Andy Burnett wrote:

> _Bob_Nixon_ <bilbo.DeleteThis@nospam.com> wrote in
> news:7Z9uj.18994$n42.12174@newsfe08.phx:
>
>> I just know Bryan, like myself, lives on a budjet, I've had two SV's
>> now, 1 old style & 1 new. I don't like them as well as I did the
>> Sprint but things have changed in my life since I bought the Sprint 6
>> years ago, So it's back to a small twin that has a lot of bang for the
>> buck (nearly ID performance to the Ducati GT1000 in Feb 08 Cycle
>> world). You can call me practical but not wounded over th is thread.
>
> Bob, I'm not sure what you don't like with the SV's, but if it's the
> suspension, a guy here just rebuilt an SV after a crash and put a GSXR
> front end on it. USD forks, 320mm rotors, six pot calipers. Pretty
> straightforward swap I guess and sometimes you can find good deals on
> those parts.
>
> He says the difference in handling is stunning, which you'd expect.
>
> ab

Andy, the things you could say I don't like about my second SV-650 are a
pretty short list. The Sprint had a more flexible suspension and on the
Freeway you couldn't feel the expansion joints and small bumps as much.
Actually compared to my GEN1 SV-650 this 06 model has:
1) Taunter,track like suspension or more like the GSXR-1000 I had.
2) The brakes feel better, with more bite as opposed to the wooden feel of
the 2000 model.
3) The engine is smoother, thoughout the rev range; maybe they've just got
the cnc milling down tighter now, It's not as smooth as the sprint was but
at high PRM it's close.
4) It has more power than the 2000 model but then I bought it used with a
full Yoshimira pipe setup and a PC, + the airbox mod that raises the tank
higher for more air input. I'm guessing 75-80 RWHP.
5) Due to the 1.5" longer wheelbase it doesn't wheelie as easy. Good thing,

So in the end, it's the lack of suspension adjustments and less roomy (high
pegs) seating that I don't like. However, I'm pretty much stuck with a low
seat height, light weight bike as my biggest problem is with low speed
handling in my crippled condition.

Certainly I would have had more of a beef with a Ducati GT1000, with it's
extra 50 pounds, 1" higher seat, worse mileage, and spoke wheels & tubes at
twice the price. I paid $5200 OTD for the 06 SV with 5000 miles on it &
never droped, detailed, plus new oil at the Triumph/Duc/Priller dealer vs
over $11,000 OTD for a Ducati GT-1000.

--
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(Msg. 203) Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:32 pm
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On Mar 4, 12:59 pm, _Bob_Nixon_ <bi... RemoveThis @nospam.com> wrote:
> Andy Burnett wrote:
> > _Bob_Nixon_ <bi... RemoveThis @nospam.com> wrote in
> >news:7Z9uj.18994$n42.12174@newsfe08.phx:
>
> >> I just know Bryan, like myself, lives on a budjet, I've had two SV's
> >> now, 1 old style & 1 new. I don't like them as well as I did the
> >> Sprint but things have changed in my life since I bought the Sprint 6
> >> years ago, So it's back to a small twin that has a lot of bang for the
> >> buck (nearly ID performance to the Ducati GT1000 in Feb 08 Cycle
> >> world). You can call me practical but not wounded over th is thread.
>
> > Bob, I'm not sure what you don't like with the SV's, but if it's the
> > suspension, a guy here just rebuilt an SV after a crash and put a GSXR
> > front end on it.  USD forks, 320mm rotors, six pot calipers.  Pretty
> > straightforward swap I guess and sometimes you can find good deals on
> > those parts.
>
> > He says the difference in handling is stunning, which you'd expect.
>
> > ab
>
> Andy, the things you could say I don't like about my second SV-650 are a
> pretty short list. The Sprint had a more flexible suspension and on the
> Freeway you couldn't feel the expansion joints and small bumps as much.
> Actually compared to my GEN1 SV-650 this 06 model has:
> 1) Taunter,track like suspension or more like the GSXR-1000 I had.
> 2) The brakes feel better, with more bite as opposed to the wooden feel of
> the 2000 model.
> 3) The engine is smoother, thoughout the rev range; maybe they've just got
> the cnc milling down tighter now, It's not as smooth as the sprint was but
> at high PRM it's close.
> 4) It has more power than the 2000 model but then I bought it used with a
> full Yoshimira pipe setup and a PC, + the airbox mod that raises the tank
> higher for more air input. I'm guessing 75-80 RWHP.
> 5) Due to the 1.5" longer wheelbase it doesn't wheelie as easy. Good thing,
>
> So in the end, it's the lack of suspension adjustments and less roomy (high
> pegs) seating that I don't like. However, I'm pretty much stuck with a low
> seat height, light weight bike as my biggest problem is with low speed
> handling in my crippled condition.
>
> Certainly I would have had more of a beef with a Ducati GT1000, with it's
> extra 50 pounds, 1" higher seat, worse mileage, and spoke wheels & tubes at
> twice the price. I paid $5200 OTD for the 06 SV with 5000 miles on it &
> never droped, detailed, plus new oil at the Triumph/Duc/Priller dealer vs
> over $11,000 OTD for a Ducati GT-1000.
>
> --
> Bob Nixon, RZ-350, SV-650, Chandler, AZ.

Have you thought about upgrading the rear shock?

I hate to harp on about that, but it makes a world of difference on an
otherwise exceptional budget suzuki. I'm convinced that's one of the
big ways the company saves money. All the SV/DL650's and SV/DL1000's
benefit a great deal from a better rear shock.

I know a distributor with Elka that can get the rear unit for about
$720.
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(Msg. 204) Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:36 pm
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_Bob_Nixon_ <bilbo.DeleteThis@nospam.com> wrote in
news:b_gzj.35074$H05.9263@newsfe06.phx:

> So in the end, it's the lack of suspension adjustments and less roomy
> (high pegs) seating that I don't like. However, I'm pretty much stuck
> with a low seat height, light weight bike as my biggest problem is
> with low speed handling in my crippled condition.

Well, it sounds like there's a lot to be happy with anyway. I'm sure you
know as well as I do that you've got options to soften the suspension.

As for the seat to peg distance, I understand you don't want to raise the
seat. Do you think you could get away with lowering the pegs a bit and
still have enough cornering clearance? A twin being narrower, you might be
able to get a little more legroom without sacrificing enough clearance to
matter.

I've heard of peg lowering kits, but don't know if anybody makes them for
the SV. If you think it's a workable idea, maybe we could get Lovisone to
make you a set.

ab
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(Msg. 205) Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 12:03 am
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On 2008-03-04 23:36:47 -0600, Andy Burnett
<tzrider RemoveThis @DONTEVENTHINKABOUTSPAMMINGyahoo.com> said:

> _Bob_Nixon_ <bilbo RemoveThis @nospam.com> wrote in
> news:b_gzj.35074$H05.9263@newsfe06.phx:
>
>> So in the end, it's the lack of suspension adjustments and less roomy
>> (high pegs) seating that I don't like. However, I'm pretty much stuck
>> with a low seat height, light weight bike as my biggest problem is
>> with low speed handling in my crippled condition.
>
> Well, it sounds like there's a lot to be happy with anyway. I'm sure you
> know as well as I do that you've got options to soften the suspension.
>
> As for the seat to peg distance, I understand you don't want to raise the
> seat. Do you think you could get away with lowering the pegs a bit and
> still have enough cornering clearance? A twin being narrower, you might be
> able to get a little more legroom without sacrificing enough clearance to
> matter.
>
> I've heard of peg lowering kits, but don't know if anybody makes them for
> the SV. If you think it's a workable idea, maybe we could get Lovisone to
> make you a set.
>
> ab

Or, he could send me a couple of stock ones, and I'd machine him up a
set that are 1" lower. I could probably do it easier, and faster than
Larry. I don't need to turn cranks and handles Smile
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(Msg. 206) Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 2:40 pm
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Andy Burnett wrote:

> _Bob_Nixon_ <bilbo RemoveThis @nospam.com> wrote in
> news:b_gzj.35074$H05.9263@newsfe06.phx:
>
>> So in the end, it's the lack of suspension adjustments and less roomy
>> (high pegs) seating that I don't like. However, I'm pretty much stuck
>> with a low seat height, light weight bike as my biggest problem is
>> with low speed handling in my crippled condition.
>
> Well, it sounds like there's a lot to be happy with anyway. I'm sure you
> know as well as I do that you've got options to soften the suspension.
>
> As for the seat to peg distance, I understand you don't want to raise the
> seat. Do you think you could get away with lowering the pegs a bit and
> still have enough cornering clearance? A twin being narrower, you might
> be able to get a little more legroom without sacrificing enough clearance
> to matter.
>
> I've heard of peg lowering kits, but don't know if anybody makes them for
> the SV. If you think it's a workable idea, maybe we could get Lovisone to
> make you a set.
>
> ab

Andy, thanks for your suggestions, Lowering the pegs for the street is a
good one. I've got 1" fellers that I can trade in ground clearance for a 1"
lower mounting point on the pegs. It's really pretty easy to make them out
of 1/8" aluminum flat stock with 4 holes. I also bought a smoked colored
fairing to handle the wind which looks nice with an all red bike with all
black frame, wheels and trim. I think a new rear shock would help too but I
really don't want to spend near $1000 on a $5000 bike that I only ride at
the most now of 300 miles at a clip since the deer accident and -0- track
time. I also plan on adding a cheap throttle lock for the freeway time.

Actually I'm surprised how good the grip is on the D220's. I may buy another
pair when they wear out.

--
Bob Nixon, RZ-350, SV-650, Chandler, AZ.
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(Msg. 207) Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 2:54 pm
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Vaughn wrote:

> On Mar 4, 12:59 pm, _Bob_Nixon_ <bi... DeleteThis @nospam.com> wrote:
>> Andy Burnett wrote:
>> > _Bob_Nixon_ <bi... DeleteThis @nospam.com> wrote in
>> >news:7Z9uj.18994$n42.12174@newsfe08.phx:
>>
>> >> I just know Bryan, like myself, lives on a budjet, I've had two SV's
>> >> now, 1 old style & 1 new. I don't like them as well as I did the
>> >> Sprint but things have changed in my life since I bought the Sprint 6
>> >> years ago, So it's back to a small twin that has a lot of bang for the
>> >> buck (nearly ID performance to the Ducati GT1000 in Feb 08 Cycle
>> >> world). You can call me practical but not wounded over th is thread.
>>
>> > Bob, I'm not sure what you don't like with the SV's, but if it's the
>> > suspension, a guy here just rebuilt an SV after a crash and put a GSXR
>> > front end on it.  USD forks, 320mm rotors, six pot calipers.  Pretty
>> > straightforward swap I guess and sometimes you can find good deals on
>> > those parts.
>>
>> > He says the difference in handling is stunning, which you'd expect.
>>
>> > ab
>>
>> Andy, the things you could say I don't like about my second SV-650 are a
>> pretty short list. The Sprint had a more flexible suspension and on the
>> Freeway you couldn't feel the expansion joints and small bumps as much.
>> Actually compared to my GEN1 SV-650 this 06 model has:
>> 1) Taunter,track like suspension or more like the GSXR-1000 I had.
>> 2) The brakes feel better, with more bite as opposed to the wooden feel
>> of the 2000 model.
>> 3) The engine is smoother, thoughout the rev range; maybe they've just
>> got the cnc milling down tighter now, It's not as smooth as the sprint
>> was but at high PRM it's close.
>> 4) It has more power than the 2000 model but then I bought it used with a
>> full Yoshimira pipe setup and a PC, + the airbox mod that raises the tank
>> higher for more air input. I'm guessing 75-80 RWHP.
>> 5) Due to the 1.5" longer wheelbase it doesn't wheelie as easy. Good
>> thing,
>>
>> So in the end, it's the lack of suspension adjustments and less roomy
>> (high pegs) seating that I don't like. However, I'm pretty much stuck
>> with a low seat height, light weight bike as my biggest problem is with
>> low speed handling in my crippled condition.
>>
>> Certainly I would have had more of a beef with a Ducati GT1000, with it's
>> extra 50 pounds, 1" higher seat, worse mileage, and spoke wheels & tubes
>> at twice the price. I paid $5200 OTD for the 06 SV with 5000 miles on it
>> & never droped, detailed, plus new oil at the Triumph/Duc/Priller dealer
>> vs over $11,000 OTD for a Ducati GT-1000.
>>
>> --
>> Bob Nixon, RZ-350, SV-650, Chandler, AZ.
>
> Have you thought about upgrading the rear shock?
>
> I hate to harp on about that, but it makes a world of difference on an
> otherwise exceptional budget suzuki. I'm convinced that's one of the
> big ways the company saves money. All the SV/DL650's and SV/DL1000's
> benefit a great deal from a better rear shock.
>
> I know a distributor with Elka that can get the rear unit for about
> $720.

Vaughn, I'm sure a better grade shock would help with the adjustability on
the SV but a lighter spring load alone would nearly do the same. Spending
$1000 on a shock & spring on a bike that will never see the track or more
than 300 miles (mostly 100) a week when I only paid $5200 OTD to begin with
is over the top for this bike, I can live with the rough freeway ride as
long as 120MPH sweepers don't get the chassis all upset. I've already got
myself wrapped up with a money sink with three major engine failures on
that Yamaha RZ-350 now, The 06 SV-650 is nearly a dollar wash when I
consider the 01 Sprint ST was sold before it.

--
Bob Nixon, RZ-350, SV-650, Chandler, AZ.
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