Ducati shopping

On Feb 16, 10:11�am, "BryanUT" <nestl....DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote:

> If I buy today they'd give me $1k for the F4i on trade.

> What to do?

1. Take the $1K, but the Duc and quit telling the NG about how you're
just not mechanically oriented.

2. Cover your new Ducati with "Hello Kitty" decals.

3. Wait for the next little mechanical problem.

4. Complain about the next little problem.

5. Act like a fag when somebody tries to help you.

6. Repeat.
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On Feb 16, 1:41 pm, "BryanUT" <nestl....DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote:
> "Mark Olson" <ols....DeleteThis@tiny.invalid> wrote in message
>
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>
>
>
> > Assuming the dealer's diagnosis of worn rings and bores is
> > correct, I would rebuild the F4i's top end.  Then I would
> > go bike shopping.  Selling the F4i is optional.
>
> Yeah, I agree.  I spent the morning reading the shop manual to see how hard
> it is to pull the motor.
>
> Of course there is a special need to remove some lock nut.  And the
> procedure involves some disassembly of the rear suspension.
>
> I'll need to buy a compression tester that will fit into the spark plugs
> holes.  The one I have doesn't have the proper adapter.
>
> The service manager has a 2003 SV 1000 he'll sell for $4600 with 16k miles..
> It has lots of upgrades, piped, power commander, penske rear shock, race
> tech front springs, steel brake lines, heli bars, double bubble, new rear
> tire, recent valve adjustment.
>
> Then again I am tempted to just buy a Ninja 250 for about $2k and ride it
> while I fix the F4i.
>
> There are lots of options out there.

I must have missed this or something. Brian's bike won't start and
ran fine without gagging everyone behind him in a cloud of blue smoke
before he put it away last year and the dealer is telling him he has
worn rings? WTF???

I'd get a second opinion. This time I'd look for someone with a cloo.
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On Feb 16, 2:59 pm, "TroytheTroll" <f4_... DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
> > I asked for the OTD price on the GT1000 I test rode last fall.  It
> > has the Termi exhaust and ECU kit.
>
> > A little over $11k and they'll throw in a $500 gift certificate for
> > accessories.  They don't work on commission either.
>
> Too much.
>
>
>
> > If I buy today they'd give me $1k for the F4i on trade.
>
> Rip off.
>
>
>
> > What to do?
>
> Life is short. Buy the coolest, neatest, most exclusive thing which
> causes you goose bumps in the middle of the night, buy it now before
> the season gets moving. Keep the F4. Take some time and money trying
> out secondary solutions. Like filling the cylinders with motor oil and
> letting the thing soak for the summer. I've seen diesel engines
> sitting in fields for 10 years literally with grass growing up into
> them and hornets nests inside which, after 6 months of patient working
> while being soaked in motor oil come back to life. The engine still
> runs on a service rig, never been rebuilt since it was brought back to
> life.

Or for faster action, shoot some "penetrating oil" down the plug holes.
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On Feb 16, 1:11 pm, "BryanUT" <nestl... DeleteThis @comcast.net> wrote:
> So after picking up the stupid F4i I drove on down to the Ducati dealer.
>
> I asked for the OTD price on the GT1000 I test rode last fall.  It has the
> Termi exhaust and ECU kit.
>
> A little over $11k and they'll throw in a $500 gift certificate for
> accessories.  They don't work on commission either.
>
> If I buy today they'd give me $1k for the F4i on trade.
>
> The also had one of those $72k  RRs on the floor.  What an amazing bike!
>
> What to do?

How many miles are on the F4 anyway?

FWIW, I had a Kaw regutted for a little over $1200 once a few years
back. That included rings all around, 4 cylinder replating, new head
gasket, plugs, and a piston or two.
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BryanUT wrote:
> So after picking up the stupid F4i I drove on down to the Ducati dealer.
>
> I asked for the OTD price on the GT1000 I test rode last fall. It has the
> Termi exhaust and ECU kit.
>
> A little over $11k and they'll throw in a $500 gift certificate for
> accessories. They don't work on commission either.
>
> If I buy today they'd give me $1k for the F4i on trade.
>
> The also had one of those $72k RRs on the floor. What an amazing bike!
>
> What to do?

How much would your F4i be worth in OK running condition?
You still don't know if the shop's diagnosis is correct.

It is almost always a better deal to sell your bike privately
vs. trading it in. Sure, the dealer is "offering" $1k, but
that's while he's also quoting an arbitrary purchase price
for a new bike. You might well be better off selling the
F4i for $500 as-is and making an unencumbered straight-up
deal for the GT1000.

Assuming the dealer's diagnosis of worn rings and bores is
correct, I would rebuild the F4i's top end. Then I would
go bike shopping. Selling the F4i is optional.

--
'01 SV650SK1 '99 EX250-F13 '98 ZG1000-A13
OMF #7
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"Mark Olson" <olsonm RemoveThis @tiny.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> Assuming the dealer's diagnosis of worn rings and bores is
> correct, I would rebuild the F4i's top end. Then I would
> go bike shopping. Selling the F4i is optional.
>

Yeah, I agree. I spent the morning reading the shop manual to see how hard
it is to pull the motor.

Of course there is a special need to remove some lock nut. And the
procedure involves some disassembly of the rear suspension.

I'll need to buy a compression tester that will fit into the spark plugs
holes. The one I have doesn't have the proper adapter.

The service manager has a 2003 SV 1000 he'll sell for $4600 with 16k miles.
It has lots of upgrades, piped, power commander, penske rear shock, race
tech front springs, steel brake lines, heli bars, double bubble, new rear
tire, recent valve adjustment.

Then again I am tempted to just buy a Ninja 250 for about $2k and ride it
while I fix the F4i.

There are lots of options out there.
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> I asked for the OTD price on the GT1000 I test rode last fall. It
> has the Termi exhaust and ECU kit.
>
> A little over $11k and they'll throw in a $500 gift certificate for
> accessories. They don't work on commission either.

Too much.

>
> If I buy today they'd give me $1k for the F4i on trade.
>

Rip off.

>
> What to do?

Life is short. Buy the coolest, neatest, most exclusive thing which
causes you goose bumps in the middle of the night, buy it now before
the season gets moving. Keep the F4. Take some time and money trying
out secondary solutions. Like filling the cylinders with motor oil and
letting the thing soak for the summer. I've seen diesel engines
sitting in fields for 10 years literally with grass growing up into
them and hornets nests inside which, after 6 months of patient working
while being soaked in motor oil come back to life. The engine still
runs on a service rig, never been rebuilt since it was brought back to
life.
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On Feb 16, 4:19 pm, "BryanUT" <nestl....DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote:
> "saddlebag" <saddle....DeleteThis@aol.com> wrote in message
>
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>
> >How many miles are on the F4 anyway?
>
> 22.5k
>
> The bike is only worth about $3500.  I am having hard time justify putting
> over $1000 dollars into it.
>
> It starts now.  We'll see how it goes come spring.  I think I'll try the
> Marvel Mystry oil.

If it starts, what the problem? Is it burning oil now? The
tolerances on your Honda are likely much tighter than on the old Ford
tractor. That motor oil trick might not work as well.

Did you change the oil regularly? 22.5k is nothing...especially for a
stinkin Honda. Such talk has Soichiro spinning in his grave.
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"saddlebag" <saddlebag.TakeThisOut@aol.com> wrote in message
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>I must have missed this or something. Brian's bike won't start and
>ran fine without gagging everyone behind him in a cloud of blue smoke
>before he put it away last year and the dealer is telling him he has
>worn rings? WTF???

>I'd get a second opinion. This time I'd look for someone with a cloo.

Yep, that sums it up.
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BryanUT wrote:

> So after picking up the stupid F4i I drove on down to the Ducati dealer.
>
> I asked for the OTD price on the GT1000 I test rode last fall. It has the
> Termi exhaust and ECU kit.
>
> A little over $11k and they'll throw in a $500 gift certificate for
> accessories. They don't work on commission either.
>
> If I buy today they'd give me $1k for the F4i on trade.
>
> The also had one of those $72k RRs on the floor. What an amazing bike!
>
> What to do?

Buy an SV-650 instead. Half the price, roughly the same performance and
prolly way more reliable. Ride one 1st if you disbelieve.

--
Bob Nixon, RZ-350, Chandler, AZ.
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"saddlebag" <saddlebag.RemoveThis@aol.com> wrote in message
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>How many miles are on the F4 anyway?


22.5k

The bike is only worth about $3500. I am having hard time justify putting
over $1000 dollars into it.

It starts now. We'll see how it goes come spring. I think I'll try the
Marvel Mystry oil.
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"_Bob_Nixon_" <bilbo RemoveThis @nospam.com> wrote in message
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>
> Buy an SV-650 instead. Half the price, roughly the same performance and
> prolly way more reliable. Ride one 1st if you disbelieve.
>
> --
> Bob Nixon, RZ-350, Chandler, AZ.
>

Yep. I've thought about that also.
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On Feb 16, 12:04�pm, saddlebag <saddle... RemoveThis @aol.com> wrote:

> Or for faster action, shoot some "penetrating oil" down the plug holes.

It could be sticky valves, too.

But don't tell that to the Clueless Noob, tell him that he really,
really, really needs a $72K Ducati, and that he will never be happy
until he sells his cars, bikes, house, wife, kids, and dogs to pay for
it.

Clueless Noob will eat that up, being the center of attention.
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