Doc Wong Colonic Irrigation Workshop

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> Although I've never been on a Doc Wong event, and don't share certain
> belieifs with him, he's been a long-time Bay Area motorcyclist, and
> doesn't just promote his own stuff.
>
> If you aren't interested in his posts, fine, but kindly find another
> NG to get yer tampon fuse lit, OK?

Fuck off. If somebody wants to knock Doc for prosthelitizing his cult,
that's his decision, not yours. (Unless someone held a gun to your head and
*forced* you to read the above post?)

> What have YOU done to help promote motorcycling, or are you just
> another Zitgiest/hipster bar bench-racer?

As long as we're flinging accusations around, are *you* just another
Scientologist pulling their SOP of attacking anyone who dares say anything
against them?

> On Oct 14, 8:54 pm, "Zelda Fitzgerald" wrote:
>> This workshop is over the Thanksgiving Holiday!
>
> Why wait? Sounds if some of y'all are ALREADY full-of-sh%$#t.

Yup. Sounds like a cultie alright.
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On Oct 15, 11:34 am, "P. Roehling" wrote:

>
> Fuck off. If somebody wants to knock Doc for prosthelitizing his cult,
> that's his decision, not yours. (Unless someone held a gun to your head and
> *forced* you to read the above post?)

I don't recall ever seeing Doc prosletyzing. I do recall
seeing lots of folks bashing him for prosletyzing. I'm
not quite clear WTF the problem is.
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"Rob Kleinschmidt" wrote

> I don't recall ever seeing Doc prosletyzing. I do recall
> seeing lots of folks bashing him for prosletyzing. I'm
> not quite clear WTF the problem is.

He does it practically every time he posts here. See the last paragraph of
his earlier "suspension workshop" thread for a typical example.

As for why people bash him; it's considered polite to inform the general
public when you've located a rattlesnake that could easily be stepped on by
some innocent who knows no better.
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On Oct 15, 1:57 pm, "P. Roehling" wrote:
> "Rob Kleinschmidt" wrote
>
> > I don't recall ever seeing Doc prosletyzing. I do recall
> > seeing lots of folks bashing him for prosletyzing. I'm
> > not quite clear WTF the problem is.
>
> He does it practically every time he posts here. See the last paragraph of
> his earlier "suspension workshop" thread for a typical example.
>
> As for why people bash him; it's considered polite to inform the general
> public when you've located a rattlesnake that could easily be stepped on by
> some innocent who knows no better.

"And special acknowledgement to L. Ron Hubbard who has
provided me with the vital tools to be effective in life,
making it possible for me to be successful in family,
work and my passion for motorcycling!"

That's what the bashing is all about ?

And this is no doubt because the weak minded need
protection from this vile propaganda.

Where does he do anything but say it worked well for
him ?
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"Zelda Fitzgerald" wrote in message

>
> This workshop is over the Thanksgiving Holiday!
>

Well geez folks the guys is a chiropractor fer chrissakes, now there is a
psuedo science
right there. Add on religion of ANY flavor, and you have a witchdoctor. They
have always had a legitimate function in society. Figure half the world has
an I.Q. under 100.Spirituality, magic medicine and such, reassure and
placate the population. If you are
too dumb to figure out that BELIEF itself is the problem then so be it. You
cannot save the intentionally ignorant from themselves, nor should
you,Adythemic
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"Rob Kleinschmidt" wrote

> "And special acknowledgement to L. Ron Hubbard who has
> provided me with the vital tools to be effective in life,
> making it possible for me to be successful in family,
> work and my passion for motorcycling!"
>
> That's what the bashing is all about ?

It's one of the many ways that Scientology tries to find more suckers to
fleece.

> And this is no doubt because the weak minded need
> protection from this vile propaganda.

If *you'd* had friends whose lives had been twisted by Scientology, would
you make no effort to warn off strangers on the grounds that they'd have to
be weak-minded to fall for it?

> Where does he do anything but say it worked well for
> him ?

That's just the SOP opening line that Scientologists are taught to use.
There's a whole carefully worked-out recruitment patter that follows it
should you express any interest or curiosity whatsoever.
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On Oct 15, 5:07 pm, "P. Roehling" wrote:
> "Rob Kleinschmidt" wrote
>
> > "And special acknowledgement to L. Ron Hubbard who has
> > provided me with the vital tools to be effective in life,
> > making it possible for me to be successful in family,
> > work and my passion for motorcycling!"
>
> > That's what the bashing is all about ?
>
> It's one of the many ways that Scientology tries to find more suckers to
> fleece.
>
> > And this is no doubt because the weak minded need
> > protection from this vile propaganda.
>
> If *you'd* had friends whose lives had been twisted by Scientology, would
> you make no effort to warn off strangers on the grounds that they'd have to
> be weak-minded to fall for it?
>
> > Where does he do anything but say it worked well for
> > him ?
>
> That's just the SOP opening line that Scientologists are taught to use.
> There's a whole carefully worked-out recruitment patter that follows it
> should you express any interest or curiosity whatsoever.

A little less than 40 years ago, I took one brief course
from them in N.Y., decided I did not wish to pursue it further
and walked away.

Since then, I've known an occasional Scientologist, just
as I've known many other people whose beliefs differed
from my own.

I've ridden with Doc; I say hello to Doc; I like Doc.
I have never observed any sinister attempt to indoctrinate.
Nice guy who has made significant contributions to local
motorcycling IMHO.

He says Scientology worked for him. I've known others who
said the same. I'm very happy for him and them. I don't see
such a declaration as especially sinister.
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"Rob Kleinschmidt" wrote

>> If *you'd* had friends whose lives had been twisted by Scientology, would
>> you make no effort to warn off strangers on the grounds that they'd have
>> to
>> be weak-minded to fall for it?

> He says Scientology worked for him. I've known others who
> said the same. I'm very happy for him and them. I don't see
> such a declaration as especially sinister.

(Shrug) Whether you're happy for him or not doesn't signify. It's still
prosthelitizing on his part, and a lot of people take exception to that sort
of thing, particularly in the case of Scientologists.

I also notice that you made no attempt to answer the question I asked above.
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In article ,
"Adysthemic" wrote:

> "Zelda Fitzgerald" wrote in message
>
> >
> > This workshop is over the Thanksgiving Holiday!
> >
>
> Well geez folks the guys is a chiropractor fer chrissakes, now there is a
> psuedo science
> right there.

No, it isn't. I occasionally get joints in my spinal cord out of whack.
A doctor will prescribe painkillers. A chiropractor will do an
adjustment and my back gets better. Yes, there are good ones and bad
ones. If yours wants you to keep coming back for six weeks, ditch him.
If yours is young and strong and fixes things right the first time, keep
him and recommend him to others.

> Add on religion of ANY flavor, and you have a witchdoctor. They
> have always had a legitimate function in society. Figure half the world has
> an I.Q. under 100.Spirituality, magic medicine and such, reassure and
> placate the population. If you are
> too dumb to figure out that BELIEF itself is the problem then so be it. You
> cannot save the intentionally ignorant from themselves, nor should
> you,Adythemic

I've been on a few rides with Doc Wong. He never proselytized, and on
time, when I showed up at a ride with my back out from getting my bike
up on its side stand, he fixed it. He did once suggest a strange
dianetics thing for how to get over my fear of certain turns after a
dump, but I recognized it as a dianetics thing and didn't do it.

Now as much as $cientology is a a sham and the organization is fully
corrupt, ragging on Doc Wong purely because he's a $cieno is
prejudicial. If you find that he pushes $cieno beliefs on people or
takes their money for second-rate sci-fi religious secrets, then dump on
him all you want. Judge the man by how he behaves toward you.

--
Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com>
faq: http://www.timberwoof.com/motorcycle/faq.shtml
It's easy to say a war is so important your neighbor should go fight it for you.
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On Oct 15, 5:50 pm, "P. Roehling" wrote:
> "Rob Kleinschmidt" wrote
>
> >> If *you'd* had friends whose lives had been twisted by Scientology, would
> >> you make no effort to warn off strangers on the grounds that they'd have
> >> to
> >> be weak-minded to fall for it?
> > He says Scientology worked for him. I've known others who
> > said the same. I'm very happy for him and them. I don't see
> > such a declaration as especially sinister.
>
> (Shrug) Whether you're happy for him or not doesn't signify. It's still
> prosthelitizing on his part, and a lot of people take exception to that sort
> of thing, particularly in the case of Scientologists.

He attributes his success and hapiness to Scientology.
If that makes it prostheletyzing, then I know many people
guilty of it. Incidentally, when I do encounter a doorbell
ringer or leaflet hender outer, I don't generally find it
offensive.

> I also notice that you made no attempt to answer the question I asked above.

I've had friends whose lives have been "twisted" by various
things they've fallen into. Should we also label the major
religions evil because we know people who have come away
from them twisted ?

Doc is a good guy in my book. I don't think you know him
and yet you find him sinister. Shrug of shoulder here too
I guess.

I continue to disagree with your postings on this subject.
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On Oct 15, 4:56 pm, "Adysthemic" wrote:
> "Zelda Fitzgerald" wrote in message
>
>
>
>
>
> > This workshop is over the Thanksgiving Holiday!
>
> Well geez folks the guys is a chiropractor fer chrissakes, now there is a
> psuedo science
> right there. Add on religion of ANY flavor, and you have a witchdoctor. They
> have always had a legitimate function in society. Figure half the world has
> an I.Q. under 100.Spirituality, magic medicine and such, reassure and
> placate the population. If you are
> too dumb to figure out that BELIEF itself is the problem then so be it. You
> cannot save the intentionally ignorant from themselves, nor should
> you,Adythemic




HEAL, you heathen scum!!
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On Oct 15, 8:31 pm, Timberwoof
wrote:
> In article ,
>
> "Adysthemic" wrote:
> > "Zelda Fitzgerald" wrote in message
> >
>
> > > This workshop is over the Thanksgiving Holiday!
>
> > Well geez folks the guys is a chiropractor fer chrissakes, now there is a
> > psuedo science
> > right there.
>
> No, it isn't. I occasionally get joints in my spinal cord out of whack.
> A doctor will prescribe painkillers. A chiropractor will do an
> adjustment and my back gets better. Yes, there are good ones and bad
> ones. If yours wants you to keep coming back for six weeks, ditch him.
> If yours is young and strong and fixes things right the first time, keep
> him and recommend him to others.
>
> > Add on religion of ANY flavor, and you have a witchdoctor. They
> > have always had a legitimate function in society. Figure half the world has
> > an I.Q. under 100.Spirituality, magic medicine and such, reassure and
> > placate the population. If you are
> > too dumb to figure out that BELIEF itself is the problem then so be it. You
> > cannot save the intentionally ignorant from themselves, nor should
> > you,Adythemic
>
> I've been on a few rides with Doc Wong. He never proselytized, and on
> time, when I showed up at a ride with my back out from getting my bike
> up on its side stand, he fixed it. He did once suggest a strange
> dianetics thing for how to get over my fear of certain turns after a
> dump, but I recognized it as a dianetics thing and didn't do it.
>
> Now as much as $cientology is a a sham and the organization is fully
> corrupt, ragging on Doc Wong purely because he's a $cieno is
> prejudicial. If you find that he pushes $cieno beliefs on people or
> takes their money for second-rate sci-fi religious secrets, then dump on
> him all you want. Judge the man by how he behaves toward you.
>
> --
> Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com>
> faq: http://www.timberwoof.com/motorcycle/faq.shtml
> It's easy to say a war is so important your neighbor should go fight it for you.



Hey, 'woof! nice to see a local biker weigh in. E-mail me; I owe ya a
cerveza...that is, anywhere but Zeitgeist (i'm happily 86'd for life
there!), or drop by SFMC & ask for Hawkeye.

See ya down the road.
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P. Roehling wrote:
> "Rob Kleinschmidt" wrote
>
>> I don't recall ever seeing Doc prosletyzing. I do recall
>> seeing lots of folks bashing him for prosletyzing. I'm
>> not quite clear WTF the problem is.
>
> He does it practically every time he posts here. See the last paragraph of
> his earlier "suspension workshop" thread for a typical example.
>
> As for why people bash him; it's considered polite to inform the general
> public when you've located a rattlesnake that could easily be stepped on by
> some innocent who knows no better.
>
>

I liken it to warning someone they're about to step in dog poo.
Either one works!

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