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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:57 pm
Post subject: Decision time on sidecar
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I've found a buyer for my Vespacar truckster, which would finance
installation of a Velorex 562 onto my Suzuki S40 (aka Savage LS650).
However, the installer strongly recommends a steering mod, which
would make the bike undriveable on its own, so it becomes dedicated
to sidecar only. Uh oh, decision time. It's like *losing* my trusty S40
that I'm so fond of. Mebbe I should buy some old beater of a 750
and use that instead.
I found some guy's blog who fitted a 562E onto a '77 BMW R100/7:
http://www.tikaro.com/motorcycles/
The hack sure looks big in comparison to his bike (and the S40
is even smaller):
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tikaro/20355503/
One reason for the sidecar was so I could drive in the snow
without the bike falling over... well we just got some snow recently
and I think the whole rig would just sit there spinning its rear wheel.
Ural?
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:57 pm
Post subject: Re: Decision time on sidecar [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Sean" <no.spam.DeleteThis@no.spam> wrote in message
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> Ural?
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> Sean_Q_
I think you keep answering your own question. The question is the answer?
Besides spring is almost here, you have a year to decide. |
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:57 pm
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On Jan 31, 2:57 pm, Sean <no.s... DeleteThis @no.spam> wrote:
> Ural?
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I think there is a 2 wd version available now with the sidecar wheel
being driven.
Dunno about the front. Chain driven front for a 3 wheel driven bike
anyone? >> Stay informed about: Decision time on sidecar |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:57 pm
Post subject: Ground clearance for curb climbing [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Jan 31, 6:59 pm, "Beauregard T. Shagnasty"
<a.nony.m....TakeThisOut@example.invalid> wrote:
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> The only motorcycle (term used loosely) I know of with front drive is
> the Rokon Trailbreaker/Ranger/Scout. It has a chain-driven front wheel
> (both wheels). My father-in-law had a Trailbreaker back in the early
> 70s. You could ride it in the snow as fast as you wanted to go, and not
> worry about sliding and falling down. Gave new meaning to the phrase
> "power slide."http://www.rokon.com/products/trailbrkr.htm
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Looks like a fairly good curb climber. What else out there that you
can ride up the curb
in an urban jungle without scraping the underbelly parts?
A supermoto? A dual purpose bike?
Any standard bikes that can accomplish such a feat? >> Stay informed about: Decision time on sidecar |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:57 pm
Post subject: Re: Ground clearance for curb climbing [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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<isquat DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Jan 31, 6:59 pm, "Beauregard T. Shagnasty"
> <a.nony.m... DeleteThis @example.invalid> wrote:
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>> The only motorcycle (term used loosely) I know of with front drive is
>> the Rokon Trailbreaker/Ranger/Scout. It has a chain-driven front wheel
>> (both wheels). My father-in-law had a Trailbreaker back in the early
>> 70s. You could ride it in the snow as fast as you wanted to go, and not
>> worry about sliding and falling down. Gave new meaning to the phrase
>> "power slide."http://www.rokon.com/products/trailbrkr.htm
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> Looks like a fairly good curb climber. What else out there that you
> can ride up the curb
> in an urban jungle without scraping the underbelly parts?
> A supermoto? A dual purpose bike?
> Any standard bikes that can accomplish such a feat?
yes >> Stay informed about: Decision time on sidecar |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:57 pm
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On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 17:29:23 -0800 (PST), isquat.TakeThisOut@gmail.com wrote:
>On Jan 31, 6:59 pm, "Beauregard T. Shagnasty"
><a.nony.m....TakeThisOut@example.invalid> wrote:
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>> The only motorcycle (term used loosely) I know of with front drive is
>> the Rokon Trailbreaker/Ranger/Scout. It has a chain-driven front wheel
>> (both wheels). My father-in-law had a Trailbreaker back in the early
>> 70s. You could ride it in the snow as fast as you wanted to go, and not
>> worry about sliding and falling down. Gave new meaning to the phrase
>> "power slide."http://www.rokon.com/products/trailbrkr.htm
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>Looks like a fairly good curb climber. What else out there that you
>can ride up the curb
>in an urban jungle without scraping the underbelly parts?
>A supermoto? A dual purpose bike?
>Any standard bikes that can accomplish such a feat?
I've done it on rattletrap -- a Guzzi 850 T-3. I imagine most of the
similar Guzzis would manage it as well. Or any of the other police
cruisers that have come and gone over the years, for that matter...
Al Moore
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:19 pm
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"Alan Moore" <alan.s.moore RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 17:29:23 -0800 (PST), isquat RemoveThis @gmail.com wrote:
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>>On Jan 31, 6:59 pm, "Beauregard T. Shagnasty"
>><a.nony.m... RemoveThis @example.invalid> wrote:
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>>> The only motorcycle (term used loosely) I know of with front drive is
>>> the Rokon Trailbreaker/Ranger/Scout. It has a chain-driven front wheel
>>> (both wheels). My father-in-law had a Trailbreaker back in the early
>>> 70s. You could ride it in the snow as fast as you wanted to go, and not
>>> worry about sliding and falling down. Gave new meaning to the phrase
>>> "power slide."http://www.rokon.com/products/trailbrkr.htm
>>>
>>Looks like a fairly good curb climber. What else out there that you
>>can ride up the curb
>>in an urban jungle without scraping the underbelly parts?
>>A supermoto? A dual purpose bike?
>>Any standard bikes that can accomplish such a feat?
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> I've done it on rattletrap -- a Guzzi 850 T-3. I imagine most of the
> similar Guzzis would manage it as well. Or any of the other police
> cruisers that have come and gone over the years, for that matter...
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An early Rokon hunter's 2wd bike was called Tote Gote.
Rokon also once built a full-sized dirtbike. A Sachs 340cc 2-stroke with
Salisbury drive. It was the fastest dirtbike I ever rode. >> Stay informed about: Decision time on sidecar |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:45 am
Post subject: Re: Decision time on sidecar [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>> installation of a Velorex 562 onto my Suzuki S40 (aka Savage LS650).
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> Your S40 is awfully light for this, or any full-size, sidecar.
I wanted to keep the rig light because it has no reverse gear.
This site http://www.themotocycleshop.com/SideCars.htm says:
The Velorex 562 is a classic European style sidecar for your
motorcycle. Constructed of fiberglass, it is durable and lightweight.
It is the most reasonably priced sidecar in the world today,
and it will complement any motorcycle 400cc or larger.
Specifications:
Length: 6' 1.5" (187cm)
Width: 30" (76cm)
Height: 46" (117cm)
Wheel: 16"
Tire: 3.50 x 16
Weight: 154 lbs (69kgs)
Leg Room: 46.5" (118cm)
Hip Room: 20" (51cm)
Ground Clearance: 8" (20cm)
Electrical System: 12v
The sidecar shop sent me a pic of an S40 that they fitted to
a Champion Escort, which is even heavier (and meant for 750cc+):
From http://www.championsidecars.com/sidecars/specs.aspx
ESCORT SPECIFICATIONS
Overall width 37 in
Overall length 78 in
Height to windshield 50 in
Net weight 190 lbs
Ground clearance 7 in
Hip room 26 in
Leg room 51 in
Shoulder Width 26 in
Load capacity 450 lbs
Tire size 145SR 13 (tubeless)
Motorcycle engine size 750 cc and larger
Trunk Capacity 5 CF
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:04 am
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:17 am
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:23 am
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 1:38 pm
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:28 pm
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On Feb 1, 11:04 am, concho-vtx1....RemoveThis@earthstink.net wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 20:57:42 GMT, Sean <no.s....RemoveThis@no.spam> wrote:
> >I've found a buyer for my Vespacar truckster, which would finance
> >installation of a Velorex 562 onto my Suzuki S40 (aka Savage LS650).
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> Definately go for the 563 model as it has the heavier axle mods
> installed.
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WTF? It's 2008 and the cockpit is not fully enclosed? >> Stay informed about: Decision time on sidecar |
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