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On 2004-01-01, d_vader <d_vader44.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:

 > I've got to put some coolant in my bike. Which type should I use? I have a
 > gallon for the cars which says it can also be used in aluminum engines.
 > Would this be ok?

If you want to know what NOT to put in your radiator, try beer. It will
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Yes that ought to be fine. Remember to NOT use ordinary tap water. Distilled
or RO water will make your system really happy. Tap water has too many
minerals and they coat the internal surfaces, acting as an insulator, and
you don't want that in a cooling system. You want heat to leave as fast as
possible, not stay.

"d_vader" <d_vader44 DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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 > I've got to put some coolant in my bike. Which type should I use? I have
a
 > gallon for the cars which says it can also be used in aluminum engines.
 > Would this be ok?
 >
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On 2004-01-01, J. Slater <screwoffhomo.RemoveThis@youwish.fu> wrote:

 > Yes that ought to be fine. Remember to NOT use ordinary tap water. Distilled
 > or RO water will make your system really happy. Tap water has too many
 > minerals and they coat the internal surfaces, acting as an insulator, and
 > you don't want that in a cooling system.

Its not just the minerals in tap water that leave deposits; unlike
distilled, tap water is ionic. It is a weak electrolyte and contains
chlorine and a few of its salts. Tap water will slowly corrode the
metals in your engine block and radiator, leaving deposits on one
while stripping from the other.

Distilled water is inert. No chemical or electrical activity. Safe.
Cheap. $1.00 a gallon.

Tap water is expensive...

A few years of tap water in the radiator is guaranteed to create a
thermal insulator AND block passage of water. This is when things
start to get evil. Enter radiator flush chemicals that clean and
treat the metals with acids. They do a good job, but may weaken the
solder and already corroded thin walls. That's when leaks start.
Then its time for expensive bottles of radiator stop leak. Rust
will do the same thing, but this kind of gunk in a bottle has
marketing's blessing. You will alternate between the acid cleaning
chemicals (muratic acid) and the stop leak crap (recycled metal
dumpster rust and grit) until your radiator finally collapses with a
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 >From: "Spongebob" stanley5.RemoveThis@charter.net

 >We used automotive coolant intended for aluminum engines. While climbing out
of Zion National Park, the coolant pump began to leak, but we did make it home,
then needed to replace the coolant pump.

The water pump seal damage was caused by the silicates in the antifreeze which
are added to prevent corrosion and neutralize acidity...

It seems that the Japanese do not use silicates in antifreeze, but American
manufacturers do...

Somebody once suggested that propylene glycol-based antifreeze was a better
coolant than ethylene glycol-based antifreeze, so I websearched that urban myth
and learned about silicates as well as the dyes that
are used to color antifreeze for various uses...

It seems that both the Japanese and the Americans dye antifreeze bright green,
you can't necessarily tell what's in your engine as original equipment, the
antifreeze in your Japanese car looks like the same green antifreeze
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now who ride there bike in sub freesing weather? whuuuups, forgot about the
garage

never mind
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Thanks for the advice. Here is a good link...

<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://pages.infinit.net/mcrides/engine_tech/engine_coolant.htm" target="_blank">http://pages.infinit.net/mcrides/engine_tech/engine_coolant.htm</a>
"Spongebob" <stanley5 DeleteThis @charter.net> wrote in message
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 > "d_vader" <d_vader44 DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
 > news:mO2dnZ2Q9phwvmmi4p2dnA@comcast.com...
  > > I've got to put some coolant in my bike. Which type should I use? I
have
 > a
  > > gallon for the cars which says it can also be used in aluminum engines.
  > > Would this be ok?
  > >
 > Be very cautious.
 > Several years ago (1997?) we changed coolant in my wife's F3, prior to a
 > tour to Utah. We used automotive coolant intended for aluminum engines.
 > While climbing out of Zion National Park, the coolant pump began to leak,
 > but we did make it home, then needed to replace the coolant pump. Later we
 > read in Motorcycle Consumer News, and I think, Motorcyclist, about an
 > epidemic of coolant pump leakage in Gold Wings, due to use of auto
 > coolant........ it was OK for auto, but not motorcycle, coolant pumps. Now
 > we use only motorcycle-specific coolant. It's worth the extra few dollars.
 >
 > Clarke
 > --
 > Clarke and Leslie Stanley
 > San Luis Obispo, California
 >
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On 2004-01-01, Lowryter <lowryter DeleteThis @aol.comnojunk> wrote:

 > now who ride there bike in sub freesing weather? whuuuups, forgot about the
 > garage

That's why there is a company in Washington that makes electric suits.
Just for motorcycle riders that don't feel like abandoning their ride
in a cold garage.

Its too cold to plug the suit in anyways. Its 60 degrees here tonight
in Kansas City. I have even seen Harley riders out tonight. Go ahead,
get your cager keys and a matching purse. And tell me its too cold...

Sportbikes were meant to be ridden in the most extreme conditions. Put
some good antifreeze in there and ride. Start the year off right.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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RIDE ON!!!
<dattaway DeleteThis @twilight.dattaway.org> wrote in message
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 > On 2004-01-01, Lowryter <lowryter DeleteThis @aol.comnojunk> wrote:
 >
  > > now who ride there bike in sub freesing weather? whuuuups, forgot about
the
  > > garage
 >
 > That's why there is a company in Washington that makes electric suits.
 > Just for motorcycle riders that don't feel like abandoning their ride
 > in a cold garage.
 >
 > Its too cold to plug the suit in anyways. Its 60 degrees here tonight
 > in Kansas City. I have even seen Harley riders out tonight. Go ahead,
 > get your cager keys and a matching purse. And tell me its too cold...
 >
 > Sportbikes were meant to be ridden in the most extreme conditions. Put
 > some good antifreeze in there and ride. Start the year off right.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Or even another suggestion. Go with an aircooled motor. Screw
radiators and silly hoses and such. These modern bikes have more
plumbing then my kitchen sink. It's a wonder they are covered in
plastic.



Mike

On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 14:03:25 GMT, "J. Slater"
<screwoffhomo.DeleteThis@youwish.fu> wrote:

 >Yes that ought to be fine. Remember to NOT use ordinary tap water. Distilled
 >or RO water will make your system really happy. Tap water has too many
 >minerals and they coat the internal surfaces, acting as an insulator, and
 >you don't want that in a cooling system. You want heat to leave as fast as
 >possible, not stay.
 >
 >"d_vader" <d_vader44.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
 >news:mO2dnZ2Q9phwvmmi4p2dnA@comcast.com...
  >> I've got to put some coolant in my bike. Which type should I use? I have
 >a
  >> gallon for the cars which says it can also be used in aluminum engines.
  >> Would this be ok?
  >>
  >>
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For god sake don't use ANY coolant designed for cars regardless of whether
it says its ok for aluminium engines. Car coolants contain all sorts of
additives that will strip the types of alloys used in motorcycle engines.

motorcycle engines run much hotter than car engines too so you need coolants
that can cope with the extra load.

I always use Motorex Anti Freeze, as its supposedly doesn't contain anything
corrosive, (hey what can I say, I'm a sucker for the marketing blurb), check
out <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.bikestyle.co.uk," target="_blank">www.bikestyle.co.uk,</a> thats where I always get it from.


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 > I've got to put some coolant in my bike. Which type should I use? I have a
 > gallon for the cars which says it can also be used in aluminum engines.
 > Would this be ok?<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Thanks Carl. I'm going with the mfg's brand. Glad I didn't just put some
other stuff in the bike.
-Ron
Honda CBR 600F3
"Carl" <mxcarl.TakeThisOut@nrg-designs.co.uk> wrote in message
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 > For god sake don't use ANY coolant designed for cars regardless of whether
 > it says its ok for aluminium engines. Car coolants contain all sorts of
 > additives that will strip the types of alloys used in motorcycle engines.
 >
 > motorcycle engines run much hotter than car engines too so you need
coolants
 > that can cope with the extra load.
 >
 > I always use Motorex Anti Freeze, as its supposedly doesn't contain
anything
 > corrosive, (hey what can I say, I'm a sucker for the marketing blurb),
check
 > out <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.bikestyle.co.uk," target="_blank">www.bikestyle.co.uk,</a> thats where I always get it from.
 >
 >
 > "d_vader" <d_vader44.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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  > > I've got to put some coolant in my bike. Which type should I use? I
have a
  > > gallon for the cars which says it can also be used in aluminum engines.
  > > Would this be ok?<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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On 5 Jan 2004 02:31:32 -0800, mxcarl.TakeThisOut@nrg-designs.co.uk (Carl) wrote:

 >For god sake don't use ANY coolant designed for cars regardless of whether
 >it says its ok for aluminium engines. Car coolants contain all sorts of
 >additives that will strip the types of alloys used in motorcycle engines.
 >
 >motorcycle engines run much hotter than car engines too so you need coolants
 >that can cope with the extra load.
 >
 >I always use Motorex Anti Freeze, as its supposedly doesn't contain anything
 >corrosive, (hey what can I say, I'm a sucker for the marketing blurb), check
 >out <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.bikestyle.co.uk," target="_blank">www.bikestyle.co.uk,</a> thats where I always get it from.

MALARKEY!

Aluminum safe coolants are standard fill for virtually every Japbike.
My Yamaha came with the green stuff installed. A great many new cars
have just as many aluminum components as bikes.

If you're anal about not using silicates then switch to the orange
stuff that says extended drain. No silicate.

"Heavy duty antifreeze"? I'm afraid somebody's sold you a bunch of
bunk. Nothing transfers as much heat as straight up water. If you're
that hard up about running your bike cool then water wetter + H20 is
the setup. Enjoy the cracked block when it goes below zero.

50/50 antifreeze will always transfer less heat.


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