Connecting the quick connect harness for easy battery char..

On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 13:05:55 -0600, "Extreme-cc's"
<MrGantlet911(remove)@yahoo.com> wrote:

 >
 >I am about to re-install my battery with the quick connect harness.
 >battery tender manual says that when you are charging a battery that is
 >already installed
 >and if its a negative ground I should connect the positive to positive and
 >the negative to ground.
 >now with the quick connect harness that is mounted permanent should I ground
 >the negative
 >and if so - any suggestions? - and how hard is it to follow the wire just to
 >make sure
 >I don't have a positive ground ( the manual mentions some have positive
 >ground) thank you
 >Tom

just connect it to the negative directly on the battery. There's
already a cable connected to the battery so it is probably just a
matter of putting the o-connection from the charger cable with it.
You are at the battery already , so why bother attaching it to the
frame ?


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 >From: "Extreme-cc's" MrGantlet911(remove)@yahoo.com

 >and if its a negative ground I should connect the positive to positive and the
negative to ground.

Just be sure that the place where you connect to ground is bare metal. You can
sandpaper the place where you bolt the lead to the frame, then paint over the
terminal to keep it from corroding...

 >and how hard is it to follow the wire just to make sure I don't have a
positive ground

Just follow the cable from the negative (minus sign) side of your battery. It
should be connected to the chassis only a foot or less away from the battery...

Positive ground is a British thing. I haven't seen a positive ground since I
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"Kaybearjr" <kaybearjr DeleteThis @aol.comical> wrote in message
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  > >From: "Extreme-cc's" MrGantlet911(remove)@yahoo.com
 >
  > >and if its a negative ground I should connect the positive to positive
and the
 > negative to ground.
 >
 > Just be sure that the place where you connect to ground is bare metal. You
can
 > sandpaper the place where you bolt the lead to the frame, then paint over
the
 > terminal to keep it from corroding...
 >
  > >and how hard is it to follow the wire just to make sure I don't have a
 > positive ground
 >
 > Just follow the cable from the negative (minus sign) side of your battery.
It
 > should be connected to the chassis only a foot or less away from the
battery...
 >
 > Positive ground is a British thing. I haven't seen a positive ground since
I
 > owned a Triumph sportscar...


thank you for the post Kay:
is there any reason your prefer grounding ( as battery tender recommends )
to just connecting it to the neg terminal of the battery like others
suggested?
I do have it connected right now to the battery neg - but I have to make
some adjustments
to the remote pager. so I can still change things. thanks again
Tom<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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yup. Just connect both ends to the appropriate (+to+ and - to -) battery
cable ends ant it won't matter how you bike is grounded. In my experience,
only 6-volt systems had a positive ground.
"Rein" <rruiterNO-SPAM RemoveThis @NO-SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
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 >
 > On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 13:05:55 -0600, "Extreme-cc's"
 > <MrGantlet911(remove)@yahoo.com> wrote:
 >
  > >
  > >I am about to re-install my battery with the quick connect harness.
  > >battery tender manual says that when you are charging a battery that is
  > >already installed
  > >and if its a negative ground I should connect the positive to positive
and
  > >the negative to ground.
  > >now with the quick connect harness that is mounted permanent should I
ground
  > >the negative
  > >and if so - any suggestions? - and how hard is it to follow the wire just
to
  > >make sure
  > >I don't have a positive ground ( the manual mentions some have positive
  > >ground) thank you
  > >Tom
 >
 > just connect it to the negative directly on the battery. There's
 > already a cable connected to the battery so it is probably just a
 > matter of putting the o-connection from the charger cable with it.
 > You are at the battery already , so why bother attaching it to the
 > frame ?
 >
 >
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Thank you to all that replied.
right now I have it set up to the battery terminals
but can not understand why they would recommend
a harder set up for their product if its not needed.. thank you again
Tom



"LJ" <laremoDELETE.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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 > yup. Just connect both ends to the appropriate (+to+ and - to -) battery
 > cable ends ant it won't matter how you bike is grounded. In my
experience,
 > only 6-volt systems had a positive ground.
 > "Rein" <rruiterNO-SPAM.TakeThisOut@NO-SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
 > news:9ep010h4lo0j0s4go2ldjovsjm8dldni7j@4ax.com...
  > >
  > > On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 13:05:55 -0600, "Extreme-cc's"
  > > <MrGantlet911(remove)@yahoo.com> wrote:
  > >
   > > >
   > > >I am about to re-install my battery with the quick connect harness.
   > > >battery tender manual says that when you are charging a battery that is
   > > >already installed
   > > >and if its a negative ground I should connect the positive to positive
 > and
   > > >the negative to ground.
   > > >now with the quick connect harness that is mounted permanent should I
 > ground
   > > >the negative
   > > >and if so - any suggestions? - and how hard is it to follow the wire
just
 > to
   > > >make sure
   > > >I don't have a positive ground ( the manual mentions some have positive
   > > >ground) thank you
   > > >Tom
  > >
  > > just connect it to the negative directly on the battery. There's
  > > already a cable connected to the battery so it is probably just a
  > > matter of putting the o-connection from the charger cable with it.
  > > You are at the battery already , so why bother attaching it to the
  > > frame ?
  > >
  > >
  > > Remove NO-SPAM from email address when replying
 >
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There's no electrical reason to use frame ground, although it is good
policy to only ever connect positive to the battery (for example when
boosting), and connect negative to frame ground last, some distance
away from the battery, so that if there's a spark its far enough away
to prevent your battery exploding! Shouldn't be a problem here,
unless for example the cabling going to the permanent connector had a
short. The only minor advantage to frame ground would be that it's
permanent - making for one less step involved when you want to remove
your battery.

On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 23:02:25 -0600, "Extreme-cc's"
<MrGantlet911(remove)@yahoo.com> wrote:

 >Thank you to all that replied.
 >right now I have it set up to the battery terminals
 >but can not understand why they would recommend
 >a harder set up for their product if its not needed.. thank you again
 >Tom
 >
 >
 >
 >"LJ" <laremoDELETE.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
 >news:wu1Qb.129928$na.171055@attbi_s04...
  >> yup. Just connect both ends to the appropriate (+to+ and - to -) battery
  >> cable ends ant it won't matter how you bike is grounded. In my
 >experience,
  >> only 6-volt systems had a positive ground.
  >> "Rein" <rruiterNO-SPAM.TakeThisOut@NO-SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
  >> news:9ep010h4lo0j0s4go2ldjovsjm8dldni7j@4ax.com...
   >> >
   >> > On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 13:05:55 -0600, "Extreme-cc's"
   >> > <MrGantlet911(remove)@yahoo.com> wrote:
   >> >
   >> > >
   >> > >I am about to re-install my battery with the quick connect harness.
   >> > >battery tender manual says that when you are charging a battery that is
   >> > >already installed
   >> > >and if its a negative ground I should connect the positive to positive
  >> and
   >> > >the negative to ground.
   >> > >now with the quick connect harness that is mounted permanent should I
  >> ground
   >> > >the negative
   >> > >and if so - any suggestions? - and how hard is it to follow the wire
 >just
  >> to
   >> > >make sure
   >> > >I don't have a positive ground ( the manual mentions some have positive
   >> > >ground) thank you
   >> > >Tom
   >> >
   >> > just connect it to the negative directly on the battery. There's
   >> > already a cable connected to the battery so it is probably just a
   >> > matter of putting the o-connection from the charger cable with it.
   >> > You are at the battery already , so why bother attaching it to the
   >> > frame ?
   >> >
   >> >
   >> > Remove NO-SPAM from email address when replying
  >>
  >>
 >

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<trumpet DeleteThis @telus.net> wrote in message
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 > There's no electrical reason to use frame ground, although it is good
 > policy to only ever connect positive to the battery (for example when
 > boosting), and connect negative to frame ground last, some distance
 > away from the battery, so that if there's a spark its far enough away
 > to prevent your battery exploding! Shouldn't be a problem here,
 > unless for example the cabling going to the permanent connector had a
 > short. The only minor advantage to frame ground would be that it's
 > permanent - making for one less step involved when you want to remove
 > your battery.

i was thinking that maybe they suggest the ground to help
prevent shorts in such things like the alarm while charging the battery.
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 >From: "Extreme-cc's" MrGantlet911(remove)@yahoo.com

 >is there any reason your prefer grounding ( as battery tender recommends ) to
just connecting it to the neg terminal of the battery like others
suggested?

I suggested grounding the negative cable to the frame because I understood that
you wanted to attach some sort of accessory pigtail to the battery so you could
trickle charge it without removing the seat or any side covers...

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"Kaybearjr" <kaybearjr.TakeThisOut@aol.comical> wrote in message
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  > >From: "Extreme-cc's" MrGantlet911(remove)@yahoo.com
 >
  > >is there any reason your prefer grounding ( as battery tender
recommends ) to
 > just connecting it to the neg terminal of the battery like others
 > suggested?
 >
 > I suggested grounding the negative cable to the frame because I understood
that
 > you wanted to attach some sort of accessory pigtail to the battery so you
could
 > trickle charge it without removing the seat or any side covers...
 >
 > I have one bike with such a pigtail going to its inaccessible battery...

yes I did attach a pigtail to the battery - I do have to take the side cover
off
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On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 16:46:16 -0600, "Extreme-cc's"
<MrGantlet911(remove)@yahoo.com> wrote:

 >
 >"Kaybearjr" <kaybearjr.TakeThisOut@aol.comical> wrote in message
 >news:20040123084407.21903.00000300@mb-m25.aol.com...
   >> >From: "Extreme-cc's" MrGantlet911(remove)@yahoo.com
  >>
   >> >is there any reason your prefer grounding ( as battery tender
 >recommends ) to
  >> just connecting it to the neg terminal of the battery like others
  >> suggested?
  >>
  >> I suggested grounding the negative cable to the frame because I understood
 >that
  >> you wanted to attach some sort of accessory pigtail to the battery so you
 >could
  >> trickle charge it without removing the seat or any side covers...
  >>
  >> I have one bike with such a pigtail going to its inaccessible battery...
 >
 >yes I did attach a pigtail to the battery - I do have to take the side cover
 >off
 >but that takes 2 seconds. however I did not ground it.
 >

I'd be more worried about what charging the battery while it's still
connected to the system is doing to the charging system than how fast
I can plug it in.


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Hear ye, here ye Gary L. Burnore <gburnore DeleteThis @databasix.com> doth
declare:

 >I'd be more worried about what charging the battery while it's still
 >connected to the system is doing to the charging system than how fast
 >I can plug it in.

You worry too much, methinks. I've charged the batteries of all my
motorcycles over the years while they're still connected (there's
actually no reason to remove 'em if the water level's correct and
they're accepting a charge) and I've never had a charging system
failure on any motorcycle.

I really don't know how a charging system can be damaged by putting on
a charger . . . .

-Don

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