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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 5:44 am
Post subject: New Comment Deadline On FS Attempt To Implement Unlawful Policy
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BRC NATION-WIDE ACTION ALERT
PRIORITY LEVEL: CRITICAL

UPDATE! NEW COMMENT DEADLINE ON U.S. FOREST SERVICE ATTEMPT TO
IMPLEMENT AN UNLAWFUL "DE-FACTO WILDERNESS" POLICY.

Dear BRC Action Alert Subscriber,

A few years ago, a small select group of employees in the U.S.
Forest Service in Missoula, Montana developed an unlawful,
de-facto Wilderness policy designed to close 1.3 million acres to
all mountain bike, snowmobile and OHV use.

1.3 million acres of de-facto Wilderness established in the dead
of the night, with a stroke of a pen, and without any public
involvement.

Idaho's Clearwater National Forest is the first individual Forest
in Region 1 (in northern Idaho and Montana) that has attempted
site-specific implementation of the de-facto Wilderness policy.
But it won't be the last.

We need your help. Please read the Action Alert below and take
action today!

SITUATION:
The comment period deadline on the draft winter and summer Travel
Plan for the Clearwater National Forest is set for February 29,
2008. This is the first time a National Forest in Region 1 has
attempted site-specific implementation of their new (and unlawful)
de-facto Wilderness policy. COMMENTS ARE URGENTLY NEEDED!

WHY THIS IS SO IMPORTANT:


What De-Facto Wilderness Means to You:

Clearwater NF RWA: 200,000 acres
Number of acres of snowmobiling closed = 200,000 acres
Miles of single track motorcycle trails closed = 140 miles
Miles of mountain bike trails closed = UNKNOWN

Beaverhead-Deerlodge RWA: 174,000 acres
Gallatin NF RWA: 180,000 acres
Lewis & Clark RWA: 56,000 acres
Lolo NF RWA: 216,000 acres
Kooteni NF RWA: 117,000 acres
Idaho Panhandle NF RWA: 138,000 acres
Helena NF RWA: 34,000 acres
Flathead NF RWA: 93,000 acres
Custer NF RWA: 19.000 acres
Bitterroot NF RWA: 76,000 acres

TOTAL CLOSED = 1,303,000 ACRES
Warning: Information above is estimated. Actual acreage figures
are likely to increase when new Forest Plans become final.

WHAT YOU NEED TO DO:
Send a simple email comment to the Clearwater.
Here is a link to Clearwater's Travel Plan webpage:
http://www.fs.fed.us/r1/clearwater/Projects/TravPlan/ClwTravel.htm

The email address is: comments-northern-clearwater.RemoveThis@fs.fed.us

IMPORTANT: Put "Comments on Clearwater National Forest Travel
Plan" in the subject line and be certain to include your name and
address at the end of the comments. A return email address is NOT
sufficient! (FS often discards "anonymous" email comments.) Copy
the text below and paste into your email.

Lois Foster, Travel Plan Interdisciplinary Team Leader
Lochsa Ranger District, Kamiah Ranger Station
Rt. 2 Box 191
Kamiah, ID 83536

I would like to make the following comments on the Clearwater
National Forest Travel Plan. The comment is made using the "issues
in the form of questions" format. Please consider these questions
in the Alternative development and please also include a full
discussion of each question in the EIS. I also request the EIS
include a discussion and brief analysis of previous Congressional
Wilderness designations so the public may understand how the
existence of motorized uses actually impacts Congress's ability to
designate Wilderness. I also request that the Clearwater provide a
true range of management Alternatives, including one "action"
alternative that, at the very minimum, does not reduce the current
motorized and mountain bike opportunity.

Question 1) In Montana Wilderness Assoc. v. U.S. Forest Service,
the U.S. District Court of Montana found that Congress required
the Forest Service to strike--and maintain--a balance between
wilderness character and motorized use in WSAs established by that
Act. Given that Congress envisioned motorized uses in Wilderness
Study Areas they established, what is the Forest Service's
rationale for excluding motorized uses in Recommended Wilderness
Areas (RWAs)?

Question 2) If the existence of motorized uses does not preclude
an area from being designated as an RWA, then what is the Forest
Service's rationale for eliminating motorized uses in RWAs?

Question 3) What level of motorized or mountain bike use would
disqualify an area from being a RWA?

Question 4) In the Eastern Wilderness Act, Congress designated
areas Wilderness that contained motorized uses, structures,
maintained roads and even sections of paved roads. Has the Forest
Service studied the level of motorized uses that actually
precludes Congress from designating an area as Wilderness?

YOUR NAME
YOUR ADDRESS





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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 5:54 am
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On Feb 21, 5:44 am, scrape <scrapeNOTHA....TakeThisOut@nc.rr.com> wrote:
> BRC NATION-WIDE ACTION ALERT
> PRIORITY LEVEL: CRITICAL
>
> UPDATE! NEW COMMENT DEADLINE ON U.S. FOREST SERVICE ATTEMPT TO
> IMPLEMENT AN UNLAWFUL "DE-FACTO WILDERNESS" POLICY.
>
> Dear BRC Action Alert Subscriber,
>
> A few years ago, a small select group of employees in the U.S.
> Forest Service in Missoula, Montana developed an unlawful,
> de-facto Wilderness policy designed to close 1.3 million acres to
> all mountain bike, snowmobile and OHV use.
>
> 1.3 million acres of de-facto Wilderness established in the dead
> of the night, with a stroke of a pen, and without any public
> involvement.
>
> Idaho's Clearwater National Forest is the first individual Forest
> in Region 1 (in northern Idaho and Montana) that has attempted
> site-specific implementation of the de-facto Wilderness policy.
> But it won't be the last.
>
> We need your help. Please read the Action Alert below and take
> action today!
>
> SITUATION:
> The comment period deadline on the draft winter and summer Travel
> Plan for the Clearwater National Forest is set for February 29,
> 2008. This is the first time a National Forest in Region 1 has
> attempted site-specific implementation of their new (and unlawful)
> de-facto Wilderness policy. COMMENTS ARE URGENTLY NEEDED!
>
> WHY THIS IS SO IMPORTANT:
>
> What De-Facto Wilderness Means to You:
>
> Clearwater NF RWA: 200,000 acres
> Number of acres of snowmobiling closed = 200,000 acres
> Miles of single track motorcycle trails closed = 140 miles
> Miles of mountain bike trails closed = UNKNOWN
>
> Beaverhead-Deerlodge RWA: 174,000 acres
> Gallatin NF RWA: 180,000 acres
> Lewis & Clark RWA: 56,000 acres
> Lolo NF RWA: 216,000 acres
> Kooteni NF RWA: 117,000 acres
> Idaho Panhandle NF RWA: 138,000 acres
> Helena NF RWA: 34,000 acres
> Flathead NF RWA: 93,000 acres
> Custer NF RWA: 19.000 acres
> Bitterroot NF RWA: 76,000 acres
>
> TOTAL CLOSED = 1,303,000 ACRES
> Warning: Information above is estimated. Actual acreage figures
> are likely to increase when new Forest Plans become final.
>
> WHAT YOU NEED TO DO:
> Send a simple email comment to the Clearwater.
> Here is a link to Clearwater's Travel Plan webpage:http://www.fs.fed.us/r1/clearwater/Projects/TravPlan/ClwTravel.htm
>
> The email address is: comments-northern-clearwa....TakeThisOut@fs.fed.us
>
> IMPORTANT: Put "Comments on Clearwater National Forest Travel
> Plan" in the subject line and be certain to include your name and
> address at the end of the comments. A return email address is NOT
> sufficient! (FS often discards "anonymous" email comments.) Copy
> the text below and paste into your email.
>
> Lois Foster, Travel Plan Interdisciplinary Team Leader
> Lochsa Ranger District, Kamiah Ranger Station
> Rt. 2 Box 191
> Kamiah, ID 83536
>
> I would like to make the following comments on the Clearwater
> National Forest Travel Plan. The comment is made using the "issues
> in the form of questions" format. Please consider these questions
> in the Alternative development and please also include a full
> discussion of each question in the EIS. I also request the EIS
> include a discussion and brief analysis of previous Congressional
> Wilderness designations so the public may understand how the
> existence of motorized uses actually impacts Congress's ability to
> designate Wilderness. I also request that the Clearwater provide a
> true range of management Alternatives, including one "action"
> alternative that, at the very minimum, does not reduce the current
> motorized and mountain bike opportunity.
>
> Question 1) In Montana Wilderness Assoc. v. U.S. Forest Service,
> the U.S. District Court of Montana found that Congress required
> the Forest Service to strike--and maintain--a balance between
> wilderness character and motorized use in WSAs established by that
> Act. Given that Congress envisioned motorized uses in Wilderness
> Study Areas they established, what is the Forest Service's
> rationale for excluding motorized uses in Recommended Wilderness
> Areas (RWAs)?
>
> Question 2) If the existence of motorized uses does not preclude
> an area from being designated as an RWA, then what is the Forest
> Service's rationale for eliminating motorized uses in RWAs?
>
> Question 3) What level of motorized or mountain bike use would
> disqualify an area from being a RWA?
>
> Question 4) In the Eastern Wilderness Act, Congress designated
> areas Wilderness that contained motorized uses, structures,
> maintained roads and even sections of paved roads. Has the Forest
> Service studied the level of motorized uses that actually
> precludes Congress from designating an area as Wilderness?
>
> YOUR NAME
> YOUR ADDRESS
>
> ----
> Go fast and aim for where the trees aren't.
> ----


Done-

DDave

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 7:25 am
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Done. Takes two minutes.

"scrape" <scrapeNOTHANKS.RemoveThis@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:6elqr396ch52nk104m1ci1170ej4oiv09g@4ax.com...
> BRC NATION-WIDE ACTION ALERT
> PRIORITY LEVEL: CRITICAL
>
> UPDATE! NEW COMMENT DEADLINE ON U.S. FOREST SERVICE ATTEMPT TO
> IMPLEMENT AN UNLAWFUL "DE-FACTO WILDERNESS" POLICY.
>
> Dear BRC Action Alert Subscriber,
>
> A few years ago, a small select group of employees in the U.S.
> Forest Service in Missoula, Montana developed an unlawful,
> de-facto Wilderness policy designed to close 1.3 million acres to
> all mountain bike, snowmobile and OHV use.
>
> 1.3 million acres of de-facto Wilderness established in the dead
> of the night, with a stroke of a pen, and without any public
> involvement.
>
> Idaho's Clearwater National Forest is the first individual Forest
> in Region 1 (in northern Idaho and Montana) that has attempted
> site-specific implementation of the de-facto Wilderness policy.
> But it won't be the last.
>
> We need your help. Please read the Action Alert below and take
> action today!
>
> SITUATION:
> The comment period deadline on the draft winter and summer Travel
> Plan for the Clearwater National Forest is set for February 29,
> 2008. This is the first time a National Forest in Region 1 has
> attempted site-specific implementation of their new (and unlawful)
> de-facto Wilderness policy. COMMENTS ARE URGENTLY NEEDED!
>
> WHY THIS IS SO IMPORTANT:
>
>
> What De-Facto Wilderness Means to You:
>
> Clearwater NF RWA: 200,000 acres
> Number of acres of snowmobiling closed = 200,000 acres
> Miles of single track motorcycle trails closed = 140 miles
> Miles of mountain bike trails closed = UNKNOWN
>
> Beaverhead-Deerlodge RWA: 174,000 acres
> Gallatin NF RWA: 180,000 acres
> Lewis & Clark RWA: 56,000 acres
> Lolo NF RWA: 216,000 acres
> Kooteni NF RWA: 117,000 acres
> Idaho Panhandle NF RWA: 138,000 acres
> Helena NF RWA: 34,000 acres
> Flathead NF RWA: 93,000 acres
> Custer NF RWA: 19.000 acres
> Bitterroot NF RWA: 76,000 acres
>
> TOTAL CLOSED = 1,303,000 ACRES
> Warning: Information above is estimated. Actual acreage figures
> are likely to increase when new Forest Plans become final.
>
> WHAT YOU NEED TO DO:
> Send a simple email comment to the Clearwater.
> Here is a link to Clearwater's Travel Plan webpage:
> http://www.fs.fed.us/r1/clearwater/Projects/TravPlan/ClwTravel.htm
>
> The email address is: comments-northern-clearwater.RemoveThis@fs.fed.us
>
> IMPORTANT: Put "Comments on Clearwater National Forest Travel
> Plan" in the subject line and be certain to include your name and
> address at the end of the comments. A return email address is NOT
> sufficient! (FS often discards "anonymous" email comments.) Copy
> the text below and paste into your email.
>
> Lois Foster, Travel Plan Interdisciplinary Team Leader
> Lochsa Ranger District, Kamiah Ranger Station
> Rt. 2 Box 191
> Kamiah, ID 83536
>
> I would like to make the following comments on the Clearwater
> National Forest Travel Plan. The comment is made using the "issues
> in the form of questions" format. Please consider these questions
> in the Alternative development and please also include a full
> discussion of each question in the EIS. I also request the EIS
> include a discussion and brief analysis of previous Congressional
> Wilderness designations so the public may understand how the
> existence of motorized uses actually impacts Congress's ability to
> designate Wilderness. I also request that the Clearwater provide a
> true range of management Alternatives, including one "action"
> alternative that, at the very minimum, does not reduce the current
> motorized and mountain bike opportunity.
>
> Question 1) In Montana Wilderness Assoc. v. U.S. Forest Service,
> the U.S. District Court of Montana found that Congress required
> the Forest Service to strike--and maintain--a balance between
> wilderness character and motorized use in WSAs established by that
> Act. Given that Congress envisioned motorized uses in Wilderness
> Study Areas they established, what is the Forest Service's
> rationale for excluding motorized uses in Recommended Wilderness
> Areas (RWAs)?
>
> Question 2) If the existence of motorized uses does not preclude
> an area from being designated as an RWA, then what is the Forest
> Service's rationale for eliminating motorized uses in RWAs?
>
> Question 3) What level of motorized or mountain bike use would
> disqualify an area from being a RWA?
>
> Question 4) In the Eastern Wilderness Act, Congress designated
> areas Wilderness that contained motorized uses, structures,
> maintained roads and even sections of paved roads. Has the Forest
> Service studied the level of motorized uses that actually
> precludes Congress from designating an area as Wilderness?
>
> YOUR NAME
> YOUR ADDRESS
>
>
>
>
>
> ----
> Go fast and aim for where the trees aren't.
> ----
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 8:58 am
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On Feb 21, 5:44 am, scrape <scrapeNOTHANKS RemoveThis @nc.rr.com> wrote:
> BRC NATION-WIDE ACTION ALERT
> PRIORITY LEVEL: CRITICAL

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In article <6elqr396ch52nk104m1ci1170ej4oiv09g RemoveThis @4ax.com>,
scrape <scrapeNOTHANKS RemoveThis @nc.rr.com> wrote:

> We need your help. Please read the Action Alert below and take
> action today!

Pretty easy. Done.

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 12:07 pm
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Done.

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>On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 05:44:04 -0500, scrape <scrapeNOTHANKS DeleteThis @nc.rr.com> wrote:

>Lois Foster, Travel Plan Interdisciplinary Team Leader
>Lochsa Ranger District, Kamiah Ranger Station
>Rt. 2 Box 191
>Kamiah, ID 83536
>
>I would like to make the following comments on the Clearwater
>National Forest Travel Plan. The comment is made using the "issues
>in the form of questions" format. Please consider these questions
>in the Alternative development and please also include a full
>discussion of each question in the EIS. I also request the EIS
>include a discussion and brief analysis of previous Congressional
>Wilderness designations so the public may understand how the
>existence of motorized uses actually impacts Congress's ability to
>designate Wilderness. I also request that the Clearwater provide a
>true range of management Alternatives, including one "action"
>alternative that, at the very minimum, does not reduce the current
>motorized and mountain bike opportunity.
>
>Question 1) In Montana Wilderness Assoc. v. U.S. Forest Service,
>the U.S. District Court of Montana found that Congress required
>the Forest Service to strike--and maintain--a balance between
>wilderness character and motorized use in WSAs established by that
>Act. Given that Congress envisioned motorized uses in Wilderness
>Study Areas they established, what is the Forest Service's
>rationale for excluding motorized uses in Recommended Wilderness
>Areas (RWAs)?
>
>Question 2) If the existence of motorized uses does not preclude
>an area from being designated as an RWA, then what is the Forest
>Service's rationale for eliminating motorized uses in RWAs?
>
>Question 3) What level of motorized or mountain bike use would
>disqualify an area from being a RWA?
>
>Question 4) In the Eastern Wilderness Act, Congress designated
>areas Wilderness that contained motorized uses, structures,
>maintained roads and even sections of paved roads. Has the Forest
>Service studied the level of motorized uses that actually
>precludes Congress from designating an area as Wilderness?
>
>YOUR NAME
>YOUR ADDRESS
>
>
***************************************


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