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"Champ" <neal.DeleteThis@champ.org.uk> wrote in message
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 > On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 15:04:00 +0100, " Gavsta" <nopenothere.DeleteThis@hotmail.com>
 > wrote:
 >
  > >Whats the general opinion of the best pads to get these days for a sports
  > >bike? Not too bothered about longevity really, just plenty of feel and
  > >stopping power.
 >
 > Performance Friction. Expensive, tho.
 >
 > I'm on Carbon Lorraine this year, after many on EBC HH
 > --
 > Champ
 > GSX-R 1000, GPz 750 turbo, ZX7RR Endurance Racer x 2
 > GYASB#0 BotToS#2 BOTAFO(T|F)#35 WG*#1 DFV#8
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I had SBS recommended as an alternative to genuine kwaka ones. They were
border line scary so changed them for Cabon Lorraine and have stuck with
them. Lots of feel and initial bite with very little fade on my ZX9 and they
make a nice noise as well.


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"Grimley_Feindish" <alan"+"@zx9rninja.co.uk> wrote in message
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 > "Champ" <neal.RemoveThis@champ.org.uk> wrote in message
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  > > On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 15:04:00 +0100, " Gavsta" <nopenothere.RemoveThis@hotmail.com>
  > > wrote:
  > >
   > > >Whats the general opinion of the best pads to get these days for a
sports
   > > >bike? Not too bothered about longevity really, just plenty of feel and
   > > >stopping power.
  > >
  > > Performance Friction. Expensive, tho.
  > >
  > > I'm on Carbon Lorraine this year, after many on EBC HH
  > > --
  > > Champ
  > > GSX-R 1000, GPz 750 turbo, ZX7RR Endurance Racer x 2
  > > GYASB#0 BotToS#2 BOTAFO(T|F)#35 WG*#1 DFV#8
<font color=green>  > > Team UKRM Racing : <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.team-ukrm.com</font" target="_blank">www.team-ukrm.com</font</a>>
 >
 > I had SBS recommended as an alternative to genuine kwaka ones. They were
 > border line scary so changed them for Cabon Lorraine and have stuck with
 > them. Lots of feel and initial bite with very little fade on my ZX9 and
they
 > make a nice noise as well.


Carbone Lorraine (A3+ or SBK) are the mutts nuts.
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"Champ" <neal.RemoveThis@champ.org.uk> wrote in message
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 > On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 15:04:00 +0100, " Gavsta"
<nopenothere.RemoveThis@hotmail.com>
 > wrote:
 >
  > >Whats the general opinion of the best pads to get these days for a
sports
  > >bike? Not too bothered about longevity really, just plenty of feel
and
  > >stopping power.
 >
 > Performance Friction. Expensive, tho.
 >
 > I'm on Carbon Lorraine this year, after many on EBC HH


Didn't I read somewhere that they eat gixxer disks? It may have been
on here.

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Molly says...
 > "Champ" <neal.DeleteThis@champ.org.uk> wrote :

  > > I'm on Carbon Lorraine this year, after many on EBC HH
 >
 >
 > Didn't I read somewhere that they eat gixxer disks? It may have been
 > on here.

EBC HH eat discs, never heard this said of Carbone Lorraine.

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Champ wrote:

 > Performance Friction. Expensive, tho.

How much is expensive?


 > I'm on Carbon Lorraine this year, after many on EBC HH

Is there an appreciable difference? I not had them (CL) before as they
didn't make them for old 2 pot P8 Brembos but I'm pretty sure they do a
set for the 4 pot Brembos.

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" Gavsta" <nopenothere.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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 > Whats the general opinion of the best pads to get these days for a sports
 > bike? Not too bothered about longevity really, just plenty of feel and
 > stopping power.
 >

Carbon Lorraine SBK3 front/RX rear...rock (tm Bear)

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On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 15:04:00 +0100, " Gavsta" <nopenothere.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com>
wrote:

 >Whats the general opinion of the best pads to get these days for a sports
 >bike? Not too bothered about longevity really, just plenty of feel and
 >stopping power.

I find the best ones are whatever the shop's put in for me.

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On Tue, 8 Jun 2004 08:49:29 +0100, "sweller" <ng RemoveThis @mztech.fsnet.co.uk>
wrote:

 >Champ wrote:
 >
  >> Performance Friction. Expensive, tho.
 >
 >How much is expensive?

About 36 quid *a side*

  >> I'm on Carbon Lorraine this year, after many on EBC HH
 >
 >Is there an appreciable difference? I not had them (CL) before as they
 >didn't make them for old 2 pot P8 Brembos but I'm pretty sure they do a
 >set for the 4 pot Brembos.

I think the CLs have a bit more feel. Mind you, we've changed back to
the OE master cylinder (from the AP Racing adjustable one) at the same
time, so I can't make a direct comparison.
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Champ wrote:

  > > How much is expensive?
 >
 > About 36 quid *a side*

OE Brembos are £23.50 for mine, £12.95 for EBC (again per side)


 > I think the CLs have a bit more feel. Mind you, we've changed back to
 > the OE master cylinder (from the AP Racing adjustable one) at the same
 > time, so I can't make a direct comparison.

Do they chew cast discs? [1]

Where's the cheapest place to get CLs or am I just as well off getting
them from the local bike shop? How much is a reasonable price?


[1] This is important as Le Man I/II disc outers are made from
unobtanium. I got one NOS from Steve Wesson (his last) for £100 and
picked up a pair v. low mileage from ebay for £80. *result*

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On Tue, 8 Jun 2004 11:11:34 +0100, "sweller" <ng RemoveThis @mztech.fsnet.co.uk>
wrote:

 >Champ wrote:
 >
   >> > How much is expensive?
  >>
  >> About 36 quid *a side*
 >
 >OE Brembos are £23.50 for mine, £12.95 for EBC (again per side)
 >
 >
  >> I think the CLs have a bit more feel. Mind you, we've changed back to
  >> the OE master cylinder (from the AP Racing adjustable one) at the same
  >> time, so I can't make a direct comparison.
 >
 >Do they chew cast discs? [1]

I've really no idea. I guess you'd be better off asking on the Guzzi
forums.

 >Where's the cheapest place to get CLs or am I just as well off getting
 >them from the local bike shop? How much is a reasonable price?

You can get them from Heine Gericke for approx £27 a side. But I'm
sure shopping around would be worth it - local tyre/brake/exhaust
place (ProTyre) quoted me 22 quid a side.
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Lozzo wrote:
 > Molly says...
  >> "Champ" <neal.RemoveThis@champ.org.uk> wrote :
 >
   >>> I'm on Carbon Lorraine this year, after many on EBC HH
  >>
  >>
  >> Didn't I read somewhere that they eat gixxer disks? It may have
  >> been on here.
 >
 > EBC HH eat discs, never heard this said of Carbone Lorraine.

OK I got it the wrong way around cheers. I need new pads.

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Petel wrote:
 > " Gavsta" <nopenothere RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
 > news:2ijaugFn20v5U1@uni-berlin.de...
  >> Whats the general opinion of the best pads to get these days for a
  >> sports bike? Not too bothered about longevity really, just plenty of
  >> feel and stopping power.
  >>
 >
 > Carbon Lorraine SBK3 front/RX rear...rock (tm Bear)

Carbon Lorraine it is then.

Cheers all.

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sweller says...
 > Champ wrote:
 >
  > > Performance Friction. Expensive, tho.
 >
 > How much is expensive?
 >
 >
  > > I'm on Carbon Lorraine this year, after many on EBC HH
 >
 > Is there an appreciable difference? I not had them (CL) before as they
 > didn't make them for old 2 pot P8 Brembos but I'm pretty sure they do a
 > set for the 4 pot Brembos.

I noticed a big difference on the ZZR1100. Loads more feel, they stopped
the bike better and were easier to control on the lever. In short they
made the ZZR's pitifully shite brakes almost acceptable.

The only downside I found was the SBK3 fronts didn't work immediately,
there was a split second where you couldn't feel them doing their job
and then they really came into action. Almost like they had to warm up
slightly before working. This wasn't a problem doing something like a
botafot where the brakes are used alot and don't really cool down, but
when I was doing lots of motorway miles it was disconcerting for the
first few weeks they were in. I soon got used to them though. I didn't
keep the ZZR long enough after I fitted them to work out what the wear
rate was like, but I wouldn't imagine they'd last too long tbh.

I've never gone for sports compound rear pads out of choice because I
don't like having a sharp rear brake. I don't use it much anyway. I
normally fit the cheapest available unless top quality ones are free.

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