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David T. Ashley

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 12:43 am
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I finished mounting a sissy bar. In my typical anal retentive fashion, got
out a torque wrench and the blue LocTite.

Just out of curiousity ... how does LocTite cure? (Just curious because of
the cold weather.) Is it evaporative or some other mechanism.

Thanks.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 12:48 am
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"David T. Ashley" <dta.DeleteThis@e3ft.com> wrote in message
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>I finished mounting a sissy bar. In my typical anal retentive fashion, got
>out a torque wrench and the blue LocTite.
>
> Just out of curiousity ... how does LocTite cure? (Just curious because
> of the cold weather.) Is it evaporative or some other mechanism.
>
> Thanks.

Did find this.

http://tds.loctite.com/tds5/docs/242-EN.pdf

But doesn't really saw how it cures, just that it does.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 6:04 am
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On Feb 25, 9:43�pm, "David T. Ashley" <d....DeleteThis@e3ft.com> wrote:

> Just out of curiousity ... how does LocTite cure? �(Just curious because of
> the cold weather.) �Is it evaporative or some other mechanism.

I recall reading an article in an hobby magazine saying that acrylic
plastics somehow need the moisture in the air to cure, which doesn't
make sense to me, but I'm not a chemical engineer.

Model RC airplane builders used to mix baking soda and superglue
together to get a quick drying putty to patch up their dinged planes.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 7:34 am
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On Feb 26, 10:15 am, Ben Kaufman <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-
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> I never noticed it before,  there's the blue loctite and the red loctite

If you were a Harley rider you would know all about red Loctite!
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 7:45 am
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On Feb 26, 10:34 am, "tomor...@erols.com" <tomor... RemoveThis @erols.com> wrote:
> On Feb 26, 10:15 am, Ben Kaufman <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-
>
> doll... RemoveThis @pobox.com> wrote:
> > I never noticed it before, there's the blue loctite and the red loctite
>
> If you were a Harley rider you would know all about red Loctite!

so what's the difference between red and blue? i only discovered red
last week - blue i've used for 10 years
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 8:52 am
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On Feb 26, 10:45 am, c <smalltalkingchic....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 26, 10:34 am, "tomor...@erols.com" <tomor....DeleteThis@erols.com> wrote:
>
> > On Feb 26, 10:15 am, Ben Kaufman <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-
>
> > doll....DeleteThis@pobox.com> wrote:
> > > I never noticed it before,  there's the blue loctite and the red loctite
>
> > If you were a Harley rider you would know all about red Loctite!
>
> so what's the difference between red and blue? i only discovered red
> last week - blue i've used for 10 years

Red is stronger. Typically you have to use heat on fasteners that
have had red loctite applied.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 10:15 am
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On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 00:43:42 -0500, "David T. Ashley" <dta.TakeThisOut@e3ft.com> wrote:

>I finished mounting a sissy bar. In my typical anal retentive fashion, got
>out a torque wrench and the blue LocTite.
>
>Just out of curiousity ... how does LocTite cure? (Just curious because of
>the cold weather.) Is it evaporative or some other mechanism.
>
>Thanks.

I never noticed it before, there's the blue loctite and the red loctite; it's
the Matrix all over again. Smile

Ben
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 11:05 am
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"David T. Ashley" <dta.TakeThisOut@e3ft.com> wrote in message
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>I finished mounting a sissy bar. In my typical anal retentive fashion, got
>out a torque wrench and the blue LocTite.
>
> Just out of curiousity ... how does LocTite cure? (Just curious because
> of the cold weather.) Is it evaporative or some other mechanism.
>
> Thanks.
>
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I have only one thing to say here. Don't use the red locktite if you expect
to ever remove the bolt again. I have heard that a blow torch will loosen
the red up. LOL!

Thumper.

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 11:35 am
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On Feb 26, 7:15 am, Ben Kaufman <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-
doll... DeleteThis @pobox.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 00:43:42 -0500, "David T. Ashley" <d... DeleteThis @e3ft.com> wrote:
>
> >I finished mounting a sissy bar. In my typical anal retentive fashion, got
> >out a torque wrench and the blue LocTite.
>
> >Just out of curiousity ... how does LocTite cure? (Just curious because of
> >the cold weather.) Is it evaporative or some other mechanism.
>
> >Thanks.
>
> I never noticed it before, there's the blue loctite and the red loctite; it's
> the Matrix all over again. Smile
>
> Ben

There are more than two loctite varieties. Four I think.

They vary depending on how strongly they bond and
the amount of heat needed to break the bond.

The strongest grade is more or less eternal and
highly heat resistant.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 11:54 am
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"David T. Ashley" <dta.RemoveThis@e3ft.com> wrote in message
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>I finished mounting a sissy bar. In my typical anal retentive fashion, got
>out a torque wrench and the blue LocTite.
>
> Just out of curiousity ... how does LocTite cure? (Just curious because
> of the cold weather.) Is it evaporative or some other mechanism.

LocTite cures in teh absence of air. In othr words, the chemical reaction
that makes it cure only happens when air is not present.
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 11:54 am
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Joe wrote:

> LocTite cures in teh absence of air. In othr words, the chemical reaction
> that makes it cure only happens when air is not present.

So the little bit of air that is present inside teh bottle or tube
is sufficient to keep it liquid? Not doubting what you are saying,
just wondering.

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 11:54 am
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On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 08:49:44 -0600, Mark Olson <olsonm.DeleteThis@tiny.invalid>
wrote:

>Joe wrote:
>
>> LocTite cures in teh absence of air. In othr words, the chemical reaction
>> that makes it cure only happens when air is not present.
>
>So the little bit of air that is present inside teh bottle or tube
>is sufficient to keep it liquid? Not doubting what you are saying,
>just wondering.

http://www.loctite.com/int_henkel/loctite_my/index.cfm?&pageid=387&layout=1

Anaerobic adhesives do not contain solvents, which must dry. For an
anaerobic adhesive to cure, it must be in contact with active metal
ions and contact with oxygen eliminated. Outside of a bonded joint,
anaerobic materials will not completely cure.


Q: Why does Loctite only fill half of their anaerobic 50-ml and 250 ml
bottles?

A: Actually, there is exactly 50 ml and 250-ml adhesive in each
package. We fill bottles halfway because air is needed in the package
to prevent our Anaerobics from solidifying. Our 50-ml and 250 ml
bottles also allow our Anaerobics to breathe by allowing air to
permeate through the bottles.



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(Msg. 13) Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 11:54 am
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On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 08:49:44 -0600, Mark Olson <olsonm DeleteThis @tiny.invalid> wrote:

>Joe wrote:
>
>> LocTite cures in teh absence of air. In othr words, the chemical reaction
>> that makes it cure only happens when air is not present.
>
>So the little bit of air that is present inside teh bottle or tube
>is sufficient to keep it liquid? Not doubting what you are saying,
>just wondering.

According to the .pdf that David T. Ashely presented in a previous message, it
appears that the loctite (at least that particular one) reacts with the
substrate it is applied to, in addition to lack of oxygen.

Ben
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 12:03 pm
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On Feb 26, 2:35 pm, Rob Kleinschmidt <Rkleinsch1216....TakeThisOut@aol.com> wrote:
> On Feb 26, 7:15 am, Ben Kaufman <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-
>
> doll....TakeThisOut@pobox.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 00:43:42 -0500, "David T. Ashley" <d....TakeThisOut@e3ft.com> wrote:
>
> > >I finished mounting a sissy bar.  In my typical anal retentive fashion, got
> > >out a torque wrench and the blue LocTite.
>
> > >Just out of curiousity ... how does LocTite cure?  (Just curious because of
> > >the cold weather.)  Is it evaporative or some other mechanism.
>
> > >Thanks.
>
> > I never noticed it before,  there's the blue loctite and the red loctite; it's
> > the Matrix all over again.  Smile
>
> > Ben
>
> There are more than two loctite varieties. Four I think.
>
> They vary depending on how strongly they bond and
> the amount of heat needed to break the bond.
>
> The strongest grade is more or less eternal and
> highly heat resistant.

I use three versions, green, blue, and red. But mostly red and
blue. In fact, I can't remember any more what I used to use the green
for.
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 12:37 pm
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On Feb 26, 12:03 pm, "tomor...@erols.com" <tomor... RemoveThis @erols.com> wrote:
> On Feb 26, 2:35 pm, Rob Kleinschmidt <Rkleinsch1216... RemoveThis @aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 26, 7:15 am, Ben Kaufman <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-
>
> > doll... RemoveThis @pobox.com> wrote:
> > > On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 00:43:42 -0500, "David T. Ashley" <d... RemoveThis @e3ft.com> wrote:
>
> > > >I finished mounting a sissy bar. In my typical anal retentive fashion, got
> > > >out a torque wrench and the blue LocTite.
>
> > > >Just out of curiousity ... how does LocTite cure? (Just curious because of
> > > >the cold weather.) Is it evaporative or some other mechanism.
>
> > > >Thanks.
>
> > > I never noticed it before, there's the blue loctite and the red loctite; it's
> > > the Matrix all over again. Smile
>
> > > Ben
>
> > There are more than two loctite varieties. Four I think.
>
> > They vary depending on how strongly they bond and
> > the amount of heat needed to break the bond.
>
> > The strongest grade is more or less eternal and
> > highly heat resistant.
>
> I use three versions, green, blue, and red. But mostly red and
> blue. In fact, I can't remember any more what I used to use the green
> for.

Wot, no purple ? Says here the green is a penetrating grade.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loctite

My recollection was a little fractured too.
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