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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 5:12 pm
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I *finally* got around to re-installing my barkbusters today. I got
most of the black paint off the one DJ sent me (so it'd match my bare
aluminum version), and DJ's bend was pretty close to what I needed.
Then I trimmed the end of the anchor scrape had provided in NC so that
the guard would sit flush with the bar end (he uses some exotic guards
with unique bar-end clamps). Satisfied with that work, I moved on to
the rear brake.

At Brushy Mountain last summer I talked Mr. Cook into taking a spin
on the RM. He complained twice of the rear (drum) brake sticking, and
as soon as he said it the first time I realized he was right because
the thing was acting odd earlier. When we switched back I
intentionally abused the rear brake to try and judge the degree of the
problem. It was definitely sticking.

Fortunately, and since I was having a lot of trouble using the RM's
clutch with my broken ring finger by this time, Jim arranged for me to
ride his 300 the next day (I believe he rode RaRa's extra bike). So
today I finally decided to investigate (in hopes of maybe getting to
ride one weekend soon!). I was thinking maybe the spreader shaft was
so worn (it is a 22 year old bike, after all) that it was getting
completely horizontal between the brake shoes... thus sticking them
fully expanded. Jim suggested it might be something much more simple
like some grit and grime stuck along the shaft somewhere and
preventing smooth operation.

Well, it turns out it was even more simple than that. The brake
shaft arm has a sort of coil [return] spring with one end wrapping
around the brake arm and the other end bent to insert into a hole in
the brake shoe hub. The spring had come out of the hole, unsprung, and
was totally useless. Re-inserting it (no small task) resulted in
non-sticking brakes. Smile


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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 5:12 pm
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"CrashTestDummy" <FBRADFORDremove.DeleteThis@tx.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Well, it turns out it was even more simple than that. The brake
> shaft arm has a sort of coil [return] spring with one end wrapping
> around the brake arm and the other end bent to insert into a hole in
> the brake shoe hub. The spring had come out of the hole, unsprung, and
> was totally useless. Re-inserting it (no small task) resulted in
> non-sticking brakes. Smile

When my oldest was just a toddler, she liked to hang out in the garage.

On a riding trip the high country, I kept having rear brake issues. I
finally discovered that a large nail had been inserted into my (hollow)
swingarm bolt. On occasion, it would shake over to the right side, where it
would interfere with the brake lever. Got a good laugh out of that one.

-Jeff-

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 5:12 pm
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On Feb 25, 6:36 pm, "HellSickle" <jldnospamee....TakeThisOut@comcast.spammer.net>
wrote:

> When my oldest was just a toddler, she liked to hang out in the garage.
>
> On a riding trip the high country, I kept having rear brake issues. I
> finally discovered that a large nail had been inserted into my (hollow)
> swingarm bolt. On occasion, it would shake over to the right side, where it
> would interfere with the brake lever. Got a good laugh out of that one.

Are you sure it was the toddler and not your friend's wife?

Craig
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 5:59 pm
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In article
<de666810-67b1-43fb-a96b-a80f2e816b27.RemoveThis@z70g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
Craig <googlegroupmail.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Feb 25, 6:36 pm, "HellSickle" <jldnospamee....RemoveThis@comcast.spammer.net>
> wrote:
>
> > When my oldest was just a toddler, she liked to hang out in the garage.
> >
> > On a riding trip the high country, I kept having rear brake issues. I
> > finally discovered that a large nail had been inserted into my (hollow)
> > swingarm bolt. On occasion, it would shake over to the right side, where it
> > would interfere with the brake lever. Got a good laugh out of that one.
>
> Are you sure it was the toddler and not your friend's wife?
>
That's almost as good as a tire arn through the spokes...I'm with
Craig on this.

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:31 pm
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On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:12:35 -0600, CrashTestDummy
<FBRADFORDremove RemoveThis @tx.rr.com> wrote:

>Then I trimmed the end of the anchor scrape had provided in NC so that
>the guard would sit flush with the bar end (he uses some exotic guards
>with unique bar-end clamps).

Can't remember which I had extras of, but they were either Acerbis
or Cycra. Or maybe Moose. The Acerbis have a raised area that
corresponds with a groove on the guard that adds a little more
incentive for them not to turn.

We went back out to Brushy yesterday and I had three people
looking for your tree, but came up empty handed.


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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 8:25 pm
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"HardWorkingDog" <harvey.TakeThisOut@mush.man> wrote in message
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> In article
> <de666810-67b1-43fb-a96b-a80f2e816b27.TakeThisOut@z70g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
> Craig <googlegroupmail.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote:

>> Are you sure it was the toddler and not your friend's wife?
>>
> That's almost as good as a tire arn through the spokes...I'm with
> Craig on this.

You know those times when you start typing a response, pause to consider
that whatever you write will be there for eternity, reflect for a moment
longer, then delete the response.

This is one of those times.

-Jeff-
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 8:49 pm
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In article <fq00s2$h67$1@usenet01.boi.hp.com>,
"HellSickle" <jldnospameeney.DeleteThis@comcast.spammer.net> wrote:

> "HardWorkingDog" <harvey.DeleteThis@mush.man> wrote in message
> news:harvey-577F54.17592925022008@individual.net...
> > In article
> > <de666810-67b1-43fb-a96b-a80f2e816b27.DeleteThis@z70g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
> > Craig <googlegroupmail.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> Are you sure it was the toddler and not your friend's wife?
> >>
> > That's almost as good as a tire arn through the spokes...I'm with
> > Craig on this.
>
> You know those times when you start typing a response, pause to consider
> that whatever you write will be there for eternity, reflect for a moment
> longer, then delete the response.
>
> This is one of those times.

I wish I'd paused to reflect a couple days ago, in a topic far far
away in a distant galaxy. Good on ya'.

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 11:14 am
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On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 18:31:44 -0500, scrape <scrapeNOTHANKS.TakeThisOut@nc.rr.com>
wrote:

>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:12:35 -0600, CrashTestDummy
><FBRADFORDremove.TakeThisOut@tx.rr.com> wrote:
>
>We went back out to Brushy yesterday and I had three people
>looking for your tree, but came up empty handed.

Seems like it'd be easy enough to find, but I just looked over the
trail map and can't remember which loop that was. I know it was the
loop we rode on Saturday and that it was a fairly high speed loop that
we'd already completed once before my OTE. The loop ran
counter-clockwise. The tree[s] would've been on the south portion of
the loop. I know for certain that there's a big dip right before the
tree... a smooth drop of maybe eight feet or so followed by a smooth
rise of 8-12'. The tree[s] should be just past the apex of the latter
and off to the left.

Look at the map, and the direction arrows, I suspect it had to be
the 1B/2B loop. And if so, the tree[s] should be somewhere near the
"2B" text on the trail map. Now go back this weekend and look again!


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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 1:54 pm
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On Feb 26, 1:30 pm, scrape <scrapeNOTHA... RemoveThis @nc.rr.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 11:14:07 -0600, CrashTestDummy
>
>
>
>
>
> <FBRADFORDrem... RemoveThis @tx.rr.com> wrote:
> >>We went back out to Brushy yesterday and I had three people
> >>looking for your tree, but came up empty handed.
>
> >    Seems like it'd be easy enough to find, but I just looked over the
> >trail map and can't remember which loop that was. I know it was the
> >loop we rode on Saturday and that it was a fairly high speed loop that
> >we'd already completed once before my OTE. The loop ran
> >counter-clockwise. The tree[s] would've been on the south portion of
> >the loop. I know for certain that there's a big dip right before the
> >tree... a smooth drop of maybe eight feet or so followed by a smooth
> >rise of 8-12'. The tree[s] should be just past the apex of the latter
> >and off to the left.
>
> >    Look at the map, and the direction arrows, I suspect it had to be
> >the 1B/2B loop. And if so, the tree[s] should be somewhere near the
> >"2B" text on the trail map. Now go back this weekend and look again!
>
> I definitely remember the terrain, just not the exact trail,
> apparently.
>
> Chances are that I'm not riding for a while, personally.

How come? Are the gaping holes in your leg causing you problems?


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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 3:55 pm
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On Feb 26, 3:50 pm, scrape <scrapeNOTHA... DeleteThis @nc.rr.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 13:54:06 -0800 (PST), WoodsChick
>
> <TamiRow... DeleteThis @msn.com> wrote:
> >> Chances are that I'm not riding for a while, personally.
>
> >How come? Are the gaping holes in your leg causing you problems?
>
> Yep.  May need surgery to "clean it up".

Ewww!
I hope not, but if you do we can sit around all day and talk on the
phone, `kay?

>
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 4:30 pm
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On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 11:14:07 -0600, CrashTestDummy
<FBRADFORDremove.RemoveThis@tx.rr.com> wrote:

>>We went back out to Brushy yesterday and I had three people
>>looking for your tree, but came up empty handed.
>
> Seems like it'd be easy enough to find, but I just looked over the
>trail map and can't remember which loop that was. I know it was the
>loop we rode on Saturday and that it was a fairly high speed loop that
>we'd already completed once before my OTE. The loop ran
>counter-clockwise. The tree[s] would've been on the south portion of
>the loop. I know for certain that there's a big dip right before the
>tree... a smooth drop of maybe eight feet or so followed by a smooth
>rise of 8-12'. The tree[s] should be just past the apex of the latter
>and off to the left.
>
> Look at the map, and the direction arrows, I suspect it had to be
>the 1B/2B loop. And if so, the tree[s] should be somewhere near the
>"2B" text on the trail map. Now go back this weekend and look again!

I definitely remember the terrain, just not the exact trail,
apparently.

Chances are that I'm not riding for a while, personally.


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(Msg. 12) Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 6:50 pm
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On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 13:54:06 -0800 (PST), WoodsChick
<TamiRowell.DeleteThis@msn.com> wrote:


>> Chances are that I'm not riding for a while, personally.
>
>How come? Are the gaping holes in your leg causing you problems?

Yep. May need surgery to "clean it up".


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(Msg. 13) Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 6:50 pm
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On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 18:50:14 -0500, scrape <scrapeNOTHANKS RemoveThis @nc.rr.com>
wrote:

>On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 13:54:06 -0800 (PST), WoodsChick
><TamiRowell RemoveThis @msn.com> wrote:
>
>
>>> Chances are that I'm not riding for a while, personally.
>>
>>How come? Are the gaping holes in your leg causing you problems?
>
>Yep. May need surgery to "clean it up".


I hope the dog's okay.

But seriously... when can you go look for my tree?

Okay, okay... poor bastard... you been keeping the wound clean,
right? Or did you strap on your filthy MX boots and wade in the mud?
Jeez, just hurry up and win the lotto, would ya?




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(Msg. 14) Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 8:51 pm
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On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 18:48:49 -0600, CrashTestDummy
<FBRADFORDremove.RemoveThis@tx.rr.com> wrote:


>>>> Chances are that I'm not riding for a while, personally.
>>>
>>>How come? Are the gaping holes in your leg causing you problems?
>>
>>Yep. May need surgery to "clean it up".
>
>
> I hope the dog's okay.
>
> But seriously... when can you go look for my tree?
>
> Okay, okay... poor bastard... you been keeping the wound clean,
>right? Or did you strap on your filthy MX boots and wade in the mud?
>Jeez, just hurry up and win the lotto, would ya?

Don't make me post pictures. With the current swelling, I
couldn't get my boot on if I wanted to.

I sat in the truck all day at Brushy Sunday while the other 7 of
us rode. Including my son, on his first day back out since his
surgery in December. Lots of new single track. Rain, sleet,
snow, the whole bit.

I read RacerX.


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(Msg. 15) Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 8:51 pm
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On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:55:35 -0800 (PST), WoodsChick
<TamiRowell.TakeThisOut@msn.com> wrote:

>> Yep.  May need surgery to "clean it up".
>
>Ewww!
>I hope not, but if you do we can sit around all day and talk on the
>phone, `kay?

I'll be here all week.


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