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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 10:16 am
Post subject: 2nd bike for woods?
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Or am I being a wuss. You tell me.
Just started dirt biking after years and years of street and lots of
track days. Thanks to Peckhammer for taking me out on my 1st ride last
year and letting me crash his GasGas. Are you around?
Anyhow I've been riding the hell out of my XR400 in the woods of
Western WA, and last weekend we went to the Eddieville GP course. I
had a blast, but this XR is kicking my ass. I easily had the heaviest
bike out there. Looking at all the bikes, you'd think nothing is sold
except KTMs and CRF's.
I have no illusions, I'm a slow newbie and the XR is real easy to ride
slow. I'm in good shape but the bike is a handfull. My feeling is to
stick with the XR and get better before I trade it. But on the other
hand I hardly ever see 3rd gear around here.
I plan on riding the Desert 100 in the old-man newbie group. Any tips? |
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 11:36 am
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 2:36 pm
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 3:26 pm
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oldfart wrote:
> Go buy and old Suzuki TM 400 and trail ride it. When you go back to the
> XR 400 it will feel like dancing with a balerina. OF
Ah well I'm just looking for somebody to tell me to just stick with the
XR cuz that's how it's supposed to be, or that I'm crazy and should go
get a KDX. My buddy has a WR250, I'm anxious to try it out and feel
the difference. >> Stay informed about: 2nd bike for woods? |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 3:38 pm
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 3:55 pm
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"Inlaw Biker" <gmonsquared.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1141841811.925933.265630@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
> Or am I being a wuss. You tell me.
>
> Just started dirt biking after years and years of street and lots of
> track days. Thanks to Peckhammer for taking me out on my 1st ride last
> year and letting me crash his GasGas. Are you around?
>
> Anyhow I've been riding the hell out of my XR400 in the woods of
> Western WA, and last weekend we went to the Eddieville GP course. I
> had a blast, but this XR is kicking my ass. I easily had the heaviest
> bike out there. Looking at all the bikes, you'd think nothing is sold
> except KTMs and CRF's.
>
> I have no illusions, I'm a slow newbie and the XR is real easy to ride
> slow. I'm in good shape but the bike is a handfull. My feeling is to
> stick with the XR and get better before I trade it. But on the other
> hand I hardly ever see 3rd gear around here.
>
> I plan on riding the Desert 100 in the old-man newbie group. Any tips?
I had both for years and loved it. I just recently sold my trail bike (it
had taken lots of abuse) and I am in the process of converting my old track
bike to my new trail bike. I'm having a hard time deciding on what to get
for my next track bike.
--
Rick
2000KX250
> >> Stay informed about: 2nd bike for woods? |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 3:55 pm
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"Inlaw Biker" <the big wuss wrote>
> Or am I being a wuss. You tell me.
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> Just started dirt biking after years and years of street and lots of
> track days. Thanks to Peckhammer for taking me out on my 1st ride last
> year and letting me crash his GasGas. Are you around?
properly set up gas gas is hard to beat.
>
> Anyhow I've been riding the hell out of my XR400 in the woods of
xr600r is a better woods bike in my opinion... turns nicer mellow
engine and isn't significantly heavier...LOL
> Western WA, and last weekend we went to the Eddieville GP course. I
> had a blast, but this XR is kicking my ass. I easily had the heaviest
> bike out there. Looking at all the bikes, you'd think nothing is sold
> except KTMs and CRF's.
>
> I have no illusions, I'm a slow newbie and the XR is real easy to ride
> slow. I'm in good shape but the bike is a handfull. My feeling is to
> stick with the XR and get better before I trade it. But on the other
> hand I hardly ever see 3rd gear around here.
kdx200 with a large rear sprocket comes to mind.
> I plan on riding the Desert 100 in the old-man newbie group. Any tips?
lots of water and radio communications
(incase cell phone doesn't work) in the
old man newbie group you should do
fine with the other sand baggers try and
keep an eye out for the guy with a lot of
tools & supplies and ride near them.
move slow conserve energy because the
desert will sap you stamina >> Stay informed about: 2nd bike for woods? |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:38 pm
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Woods bikes are for the woods.
Motocross bikes are for the track.
It took me a while to learn this but now I have 3 bikes.
YZ125 = track
CRF250 = track
KTM200EXC = woods
Life should be like this. >> Stay informed about: 2nd bike for woods? |
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 6:06 pm
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On 8 Mar 2006 17:38:00 -0800, sgoulart.TakeThisOut@motocross.com wrote:
>Woods bikes are for the woods.
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>Motocross bikes are for the track.
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>It took me a while to learn this but now I have 3 bikes.
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>YZ125 = track
>CRF250 = track
>KTM200EXC = woods
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>Life should be like this.
I can't completely agree. It really depends on the woods and the type
of tracks. I can spin a few clickers on my GasGas and moto just fine.
I might feel differently if I loaded up to ride a track specifically,
but I don't. I want a YZ125 for woods riding. I need to stay
aggressive and a 125 will force the issue.
Mike Baxter --------------- "All GasGas, All The Time"
2005 GasGas EC300, 2000 GasGas EC300, 1997 GasGas JXT270 >> Stay informed about: 2nd bike for woods? |
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 7:55 pm
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"Inlaw Biker" <gmonsquared.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Ah well I'm just looking for somebody to tell me to just stick with the
> XR cuz that's how it's supposed to be, or that I'm crazy and should go
> get a KDX. My buddy has a WR250, I'm anxious to try it out and feel
> the difference.
OK, I rode XR's for 20 years before switching to a 2-stroke.
I always said that would happen when I became old & infirm.
The XR is a great trail bike. It will take you just about anywhere
you want to go and be very comfortable. Push it to race pace and
you are asking for pain and non-fun activities.
You should look at the KTM 450 4-stroke. The KDX <poodle-
bike> would also be a good choice.
-Jeff Deeney- DoD#0498 NCTR UTMA BRC COHVCO AMA
'99 ATK 260LQ-Stink Wheels '94 XR650L-HellSickle
We don't stop riding because we get old, we get old because we stop riding. >> Stay informed about: 2nd bike for woods? |
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 9:55 pm
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after riding a gas gas you really can't do better <grin>
xr's are fine just not light, lighter and easy steering is
what you want in the woods (unless you're in it for
the workout)
john
Gas Gas EC250
"Inlaw Biker" <>
> oldfart wrote:
>> Go buy and old Suzuki TM 400 and trail ride it. When you go back to the
>> XR 400 it will feel like dancing with a balerina. OF
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> Ah well I'm just looking for somebody to tell me to just stick with the
> XR cuz that's how it's supposed to be, or that I'm crazy and should go
> get a KDX. My buddy has a WR250, I'm anxious to try it out and feel
> the difference.
> >> Stay informed about: 2nd bike for woods? |
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 5:53 am
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"But on the XR I can be a wuss and tractor-motor through anything, and
I'll get in better shape. It's like driving a Sherman tank through the
woods. No I guess that'd be an XR650."
You just perfectly described the XR650L. The throttle has a setting
called 'tractor' that won't spin the back wheel, it just keeps it
chugging up,over,through anything.
Instead of a tractor track its got a Teraflex tire that's just as
intimidating.
DDave >> Stay informed about: 2nd bike for woods? |
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 8:03 am
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> xr600r is a better woods bike in my opinion... turns nicer mellow
> engine and isn't significantly heavier...LOL
....yea right... if you are Scott Summers.  I've had both, back to
back. I traded the 6 for the 4... best think I ever did. >> Stay informed about: 2nd bike for woods? |
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 8:04 am
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Doug wrote:
> I owned a 1983 XR450 (I think it was a 450, anyway, it was the one near
> that). I now own a CRF250X. Both are better bikes than I am. The CRF is
> WAY better.....
350 or 500 I think? >> Stay informed about: 2nd bike for woods? |
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 8:08 am
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> But on the XR I can be a wuss and tractor-motor through anything, and
> I'll get in better shape. It's like driving a Sherman tank through the
> woods. No I guess that'd be an XR650. Anyway it's fun but tiring.
> After riding Peckham's GasGas trials bike I can see why he laughed at
> my XR. I think a KTM 250EXC will be my next bike.
You'll have to learn to ride it. While the KTM EXC bikes (all sizes)
have good torque down low for 2 strokes, they aren't as luggable as an
XR4. I went from an XR4 to a KTM300. A pretty good switch. While I'm
not crazy about 4 strokes, I will admit that my friends KTM 450 is more
user friendly than mine. >> Stay informed about: 2nd bike for woods? |
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