1983 honda CB1000C

>On Jan 5, 10:04 pm, Mark Olson <ols... DeleteThis @tiny.invalid> wrote:
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> It totally mystifies me why this sort of question comes up so often.
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There always will be a polite MO who googles up the answer for them.
That's why.

Rob.
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<firestud22.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I am looking for a 1983 honda CB1000C head gasekt does anybody know
> where i can get one of these. please let me know thanks.

Ooooh, tricky, tricky.....

I don't want to show you up as a complete dimbulb, but have you tried a
Honda dealer?



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The Older Gentleman wrote:
> <firestud22 DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I am looking for a 1983 honda CB1000C head gasekt does anybody know
>> where i can get one of these. please let me know thanks.
>
> Ooooh, tricky, tricky.....
>
> I don't want to show you up as a complete dimbulb, but have you tried a
> Honda dealer?

12251-MG1-405 GASKET, CYL HD $47.75 + shipping from
http://www.servicehonda.com

http://www.ronayers.com says it has been superseded by
Parts found with Part Number: 12251-MG1-405
Description *061A1-MG1-405
Price $53.85

You can of course also order it from any Honda dealer but it's a
good bet that when you add their markup and sales tax it will be
cheaper to buy online. Service Honda is the cheapest place online
that I have found for OEM Honda parts.

If I was taking the head off I would buy the complete top end
gasket kit ("GASKET KIT A" IIRC), it's not much more expensive
than the head gasket alone, and you get all the valve seals, etc.
that are going to be in pretty bad shape after 25 years... hmmm.

After looking again at Service Honda's site, I see that 061A1-MG1-405
_IS_ "GASKET KIT A" so if Ron Ayers is selling it for $53.85 I'd
jump on that, because Service Honda wants $136.10 for the complete
kit.

It totally mystifies me why this sort of question comes up so often.
Sure, there are cases where the manufacturer has discontinued a
particular part, but this isn't one of them. For some reason a lot
of folks seem to have an aversion to going to the dealership. Even
more inexplicable to me is that these same people also seem to have
unrealistic expectations about aftermarket suppliers being able to
supply esoteric parts many years after the bike was discontinued.

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On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 20:38:00 +0000, totallydeadmailbox.RemoveThis@yahoo.co.uk (The Older
Gentleman) wrote:

>I don't want to show you up as a complete dimbulb,

*Somebody* is about to look like a dimbulb, that's for sure.

> but have you tried a Honda dealer?

Honda has a policy of not supporting any bike older than 10 years.

Try http://www.westernhonda.com/fiche_select.asp They have a reputation for
having hard to find Honda parts.

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Where do you get this information? I have worked as a tech in Honda
shops for the last 35 (yes 35, I an an old fart!) years and do not find
that to be the case. Could you please give me a source for it?
Thank you,
Bruce

Jack Hunt wrote:
> On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 20:38:00 +0000, totallydeadmailbox.DeleteThis@yahoo.co.uk (The Older
> Gentleman) wrote:
>
>
>>I don't want to show you up as a complete dimbulb,
>
>
> *Somebody* is about to look like a dimbulb, that's for sure.
>
>
>>but have you tried a Honda dealer?
>
>
> Honda has a policy of not supporting any bike older than 10 years.
>
> Try http://www.westernhonda.com/fiche_select.asp They have a reputation for
> having hard to find Honda parts.
>
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> Jack
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Jack Hunt <jhunt1x RemoveThis @tds.net> wrote:

> Honda has a policy of not supporting any bike older than 10 years.

Utter and complete nonsense.


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Bruce Farley <afakeaddress1 DeleteThis @sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Where do you get this information? I have worked as a tech in Honda
> shops for the last 35 (yes 35, I an an old fart!) years and do not find
> that to be the case. Could you please give me a source for it?

"I saw it on the internet so it has to be true"


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On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 08:36:48 GMT, Bruce Farley <afakeaddress1.RemoveThis@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

>Could you please give me a source for it?

Walk into any Honda dealer and ask for anything for a 1985 V65 Magna. I won't
have to tell you, they will.

They may say "We'll have to order that" and if you say "Go ahead and order it",
a couple of weeks later they'll tell you that it's no longer available from
Honda. Same thing they'll tell you about a 1982 CB1000 head gasket.

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On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 08:49:00 +0000, totallydeadmailbox.TakeThisOut@yahoo.co.uk (The Older
Gentleman) wrote:

>Utter and complete nonsense.

See above. Try it for yourself.

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Jack Hunt <jhunt1x.RemoveThis@tds.net> wrote:

> On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 08:36:48 GMT, Bruce Farley <afakeaddress1.RemoveThis@sbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
>
> >Could you please give me a source for it?
>
> Walk into any Honda dealer and ask for anything for a 1985 V65 Magna. I won't
> have to tell you, they will.

That's not a 10 year-old bike, it's a 23 year-old bike, so you're not
being consistent, are you?

>
> They may say "We'll have to order that"

I'd expect that. I wouldn't expect many dealers to devote shelf space to
gaskets for relatively unpopular bikes that are nearly a quarter-century
old.


>and if you say "Go ahead and order it",
> a couple of weeks later they'll tell you that it's no longer available from
> Honda. Same thing they'll tell you about a 1982 CB1000 head gasket

An OEM head gasket for a 1982 CB1000 is available, price
US$14.47+carriage, from BikeBandit. Are we feeling foolish yet?

Incidentally, the firm can also offer an OEM head gasket for a V65 Magna
can be had for US$29.98, OEM, carriage extra. Plus loads of other bits

What you've highlighted is the inadequacy of some (many?) Honda dealers,
*not* Honda's spares back-up.



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Jack Hunt <jhunt1x DeleteThis @tds.net> wrote:

> On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 08:49:00 +0000, totallydeadmailbox DeleteThis @yahoo.co.uk (The Older
> Gentleman) wrote:
>
> >Utter and complete nonsense.
>
> See above. Try it for yourself.
>
See other posting. I just have.

This may come as a surprise to you, but I restore old Jap bikes, both
for fun and as part of what I loosely call "work".

Honda's parts supply is absolutely extraordinary. Yes, it's getting
harder to source components for pre-1980s bikes, but as I said in my
other post, you can't expect Honda to keep making all parts for all
their bikes ad infinitum.

Your assertion that Honda doesn't support bikes more than a decade old
is utter tripe.

That would mean that, for example, a CBR600, 1997 vintage, now no longer
has parts made for it....


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Jack Hunt <jhunt1x DeleteThis @tds.net> writes
>On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 08:49:00 +0000, totallydeadmailbox DeleteThis @yahoo.co.uk (The Older
>Gentleman) wrote:
>
>>Utter and complete nonsense.
>
>See above. Try it for yourself.
>
Might be the case in the US but it certainly wasn't in the UK last year.

Certainly spares for late '80s & early '90s CBRs aren't a problem. Mind
you, spares for my mid '80s, limited edition, never a UK model 750
aren't as easy to get a hold of. Got to go to Dave Silver for them.
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On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 15:21:15 +0000, totallydeadmailbox.DeleteThis@yahoo.co.uk (The Older
Gentleman) wrote:

>US$14.47+carriage, from BikeBandit.

That's not a Honda dealer, is it?

>Are we feeling foolish yet?

Yeah, I guess you are but you'll never admit it.

The fact is that Honda does not support the older bikes. I never said the parts
aren't out there because they are. You just won't get them from a Honda dealer
from Honda stock.

Ford doesn't support the Model T anymore but you can still get any part you
need. You just won't get it from Ford. And you may pay through the nose to get
it.

And some of the parts aren't out there anywhere. Find an ignition module for an
85 Magna. Or something common, like a gas tank or a side cover.

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