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Since: Jul 22, 2003
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2003 11:43 pm
Post subject: 1974 honda 550 fours
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I originally bought this bike from a lady who said she has not used
this bike in a few years. I took the bike home and ordered an old
mechanics book for the bike. I then proceeded to dismantle the entire
carbs right down to the gaskets. My intentions were to replace all the
parts but when I opened everthing up there was so much rust in this
thing it was pathetic. The gas tank holy junk yard dreams batman, I
had to get a tetanus shot just from looking at it. I cleaned out the
carbs and derusted the tank, then I sealed the tank with a kit I
bought from napa autostore. I also cleaned out the bowl beneath the
gas tank (PSI) and the little screen in there. The Bike ran
beautifully for about a month when I thought it needed an oil job.
After taking it to Northern Cycles in Michigan the guy pointed out
that I needed new tires and the works on this bike. After sinking 350
bucks to get this bike up to par I decided I would take on the task of
changing my oil and filters. Well low and behold STUPID me... I put
15w30 into the oil... DOH... Yah Yah Yah I know.. Anyways I redid it
after my engine froze up on me a few days after that. That was when I
decided to look at the containers of oil again... Noticing that 3 of
them were 15w30.. my bad for not looking at them... Anyways.. I
drained the oil, put new plugs, new filter and new battery in. The
bike started up but the problem is the drain lines are syphing gas
like a drunk gerbil with a bladder problem.. And the blueish white
smoke wont stop, and my muffler looks like a smoking gun when I shut
the engine off. Plus my carbs are always in need o being unscrewed to
allow the fuel to be drained so it wouldnt cut out.. Can someone help
me with this monumental screw up? |
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Since: Jul 16, 2003
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2003 10:38 am
Post subject: Re: 1974 honda 550 fours [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On 22 Jul 2003 22:43:24 -0700, cain.TakeThisOut@bluedragyn.net (Ceric) wrote:
>bike started up but the problem is the drain lines are syphing gas
>like a drunk gerbil with a bladder problem.. And the blueish white
>smoke wont stop, and my muffler looks like a smoking gun when I shut
>the engine off. Plus my carbs are always in need o being unscrewed to
>allow the fuel to be drained so it wouldnt cut out.. Can someone help
>me with this monumental screw up?
Float valves are not shutting off the flow of gas. Either try cleaning
them and checking the float levels or replace them, and check the
float levels.
Brian<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> |
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Since: Jul 22, 2003
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2003 6:53 pm
Post subject: Re: 1974 honda 550 fours [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Popeye <ridercycle.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<vs3thv0p2e3vqs6n43g81v1env14phehgl.RemoveThis@4ax.com>...
> On 22 Jul 2003 22:43:24 -0700, cain.RemoveThis@bluedragyn.net (Ceric) wrote:
>
>
> >bike started up but the problem is the drain lines are syphing gas
> >like a drunk gerbil with a bladder problem.. And the blueish white
> >smoke wont stop, and my muffler looks like a smoking gun when I shut
> >the engine off. Plus my carbs are always in need o being unscrewed to
> >allow the fuel to be drained so it wouldnt cut out.. Can someone help
> >me with this monumental screw up?
>
>>> Float valves are not shutting off the flow of gas. Either try
cleaning
>>> them and checking the float levels or replace them, and check the
>>> float levels.
I already replaced all the carbs interior ONCE again. The leak is
minimal now, but still have the problem of blue/white smoke. PLus now
there is a knocking sound. I am beginning to think i need to Yank the
cams and clean the valves and pistons and what not. What do you think?<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: 1974 honda 550 fours |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2003 4:00 am
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2003 8:17 pm
Post subject: Re: 1974 honda 550 fours [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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when you change the oil, are you draining the old oil out? all of it?
this is not a flame, but i had a fellow come in with the similar complaint.
he drained what he thought was the crankcase, but he was draining the oil
filter.
when i drained the crankcase, it was 11 quarts from a two quart crankcase.
the pistons were hitting the oil surface in the engine.
just a question....
oh, and also recheck the air filters for mice, etc.
have they been wet?
good luck, sammmm
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"Ceric" <cain.DeleteThis@bluedragyn.net> wrote in message
news:c2b3fd2f.0307231653.7b3bf526@posting.google.com...
> Popeye <ridercycle.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<vs3thv0p2e3vqs6n43g81v1env14phehgl.DeleteThis@4ax.com>...
> > On 22 Jul 2003 22:43:24 -0700, cain.DeleteThis@bluedragyn.net (Ceric) wrote:
> >
> >
> > >bike started up but the problem is the drain lines are syphing gas
> > >like a drunk gerbil with a bladder problem.. And the blueish white
> > >smoke wont stop, and my muffler looks like a smoking gun when I shut
> > >the engine off. Plus my carbs are always in need o being unscrewed to
> > >allow the fuel to be drained so it wouldnt cut out.. Can someone help
> > >me with this monumental screw up?
> >
>
> >>> Float valves are not shutting off the flow of gas. Either try
> cleaning
> >>> them and checking the float levels or replace them, and check the
> >>> float levels.
>
> I already replaced all the carbs interior ONCE again. The leak is
> minimal now, but still have the problem of blue/white smoke. PLus now
> there is a knocking sound. I am beginning to think i need to Yank the
> cams and clean the valves and pistons and what not. What do you think?<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: 1974 honda 550 fours |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2003 9:02 am
Post subject: Re: 1974 honda 550 fours [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Hello,
I had the same problem with my '89 Honda VTR 250. I didn't noticed the
drain plug at first and figured that all the oil would come out with the
filter, which is on the bottom of the sump. I can't remember what made me
realize that I hadn't gotten all the oil out, but I started looking on the
bottom of the engine and found the drain plug, and significantly more oil
came out when I removed it.
-Eric
"sam" <zammy RemoveThis @sgi.net> wrote in message
news:vi0q82d3fo3pc4@corp.supernews.com...
> when you change the oil, are you draining the old oil out? all of it?
> this is not a flame, but i had a fellow come in with the similar
complaint.
> he drained what he thought was the crankcase, but he was draining the oil
> filter.
> when i drained the crankcase, it was 11 quarts from a two quart crankcase.
> the pistons were hitting the oil surface in the engine.
> just a question....
> oh, and also recheck the air filters for mice, etc.
> have they been wet?
> good luck, sammmm
>
> --
> toys:
> diesel BMW motorcycle, gold wing trike, honda gyros, dodge diesel dualie,
> fiat osca 1500 cabriolet,
> W3CYO/R, 145.49, 224.40, 443.300 mhz. repeater
>
>
> "Ceric" <cain RemoveThis @bluedragyn.net> wrote in message
> news:c2b3fd2f.0307231653.7b3bf526@posting.google.com...
> > Popeye <ridercycle RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:<vs3thv0p2e3vqs6n43g81v1env14phehgl RemoveThis @4ax.com>...
> > > On 22 Jul 2003 22:43:24 -0700, cain RemoveThis @bluedragyn.net (Ceric) wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > >bike started up but the problem is the drain lines are syphing gas
> > > >like a drunk gerbil with a bladder problem.. And the blueish white
> > > >smoke wont stop, and my muffler looks like a smoking gun when I shut
> > > >the engine off. Plus my carbs are always in need o being unscrewed to
> > > >allow the fuel to be drained so it wouldnt cut out.. Can someone help
> > > >me with this monumental screw up?
> > >
> >
> > >>> Float valves are not shutting off the flow of gas. Either try
> > cleaning
> > >>> them and checking the float levels or replace them, and check the
> > >>> float levels.
> >
> > I already replaced all the carbs interior ONCE again. The leak is
> > minimal now, but still have the problem of blue/white smoke. PLus now
> > there is a knocking sound. I am beginning to think i need to Yank the
> > cams and clean the valves and pistons and what not. What do you think?
>
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